Are you trying to say that MCC having slightly more than 1/2 the pre orders on a system with 1/16th the install base is a bad sign for MCC? Objective information is rather useless when you overlook the fact that base number of users is different. As a % of users who have the MCC preordered it is 8x more successful than the Halo CE ann.

Oh be serious. You know install base vs game sales and pre-orders don't work that way. Besides the Halo fanbase makes out at 12 million so for the purposes of any halo game you can ignore 70 million xb 360 owners right away. And you also know that pre-orders are not a function of install base because people who don't own a console also pre-order games.

Hang on, does the pre-order chart count bundles? If yes then the pre-order chart does look pretty bad. If no then the pre-order chart is meaningless.

You are being way too generous with 12 million. Halo fanbase tops out at max. 8 million. The numbers are somewhat skewed by heavy bundling of Halo 3 later in its lifecycle, it was that and Halo 3+ODST with all multiplayer map bundles that were sold to all console buyers, so much that used copies were worth less than 5€ because of oversupply.

Halo is a franchise, like all other XBox cornerstone franchises, that is on a decline, both in consumer interest and in quality, and to think that it will all of a sudden attract a whole new batch of fans is not very probable. MCC will sell well because it is a good value, but predominantly to current XOne users, because X360 users hardly have an incentive to buy it when they already have 75% of the package available.

We will most likely see a further decline of the Halo series, with Halo 5 being the worst seller in the franchise, as that 8 million fanbase will shrink even further by either moving to PS4 or growing out of gaming.

Are you trying to say that MCC having slightly more than 1/2 the pre orders on a system with 1/16th the install base is a bad sign for MCC? Objective information is rather useless when you overlook the fact that base number of users is different. As a % of users who have the MCC preordered it is 8x more successful than the Halo CE ann.

What I meant with China was to them it isn't a rehash of stuff they've played before, it is the first time there is a console sold in their country which will have Halo on it, in any capacity and they get the full story of Master chief right up til Halo 5. Amazing value and content for those gamers.

Difficult to type while holding my face... No I mean Top Gear here makes people interested in cars they could never get within touching distance of like the Veyron, Forza and GT allows them access to them in the only way possible.

If some1 has selective memory it's maybe you

ps4 ltd in us as end of August: 3944k

vgc numbers: 4064k

so 120k overtracked. That's what I'm talking about

It's 1/3, and Do you really believe Halo MCC will be clear to be sold that fast and that people there never played Halo when they had computer forever and grey market?

Well then, why bother buying multiple iterations of these games when you can drive that Veyron in any one iteration? You clearly have the wrong notion as to why they buy these games. Its due to the amazing sim gameplay, not to fulfill the dream to drive an exotic car in a virtual world.

The Veyron model used in Forza 3 is a completely static model, Only in F4 did they add the functional Airbrake to the model to make it more true to life. If it was 100% just for sim gameplay then the game wouldn't bother using licenced cars nor would there be 20euros of Porsche car dlc in Forza 4 which have been downloaded by 1000s of Porsche fans.