| Dark_Feanor said:
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Keep in mind that's for the entire company, we're just talking about video games here.
Is MS Just Wasting Their Money? | |||
| Yes, PS4 Will Sell The Most Regardless | 86 | 57.33% | |
| No, It Still Boosts Sales... | 47 | 31.33% | |
| Undecided | 16 | 10.67% | |
| Total: | 149 | ||
| Dark_Feanor said:
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Keep in mind that's for the entire company, we're just talking about video games here.
| kitler53 said: advertisement and marketing is important to every product. |
I'm not judging it based only on if it beats the PS4. However, you know damn well MS isn't happy that they spent millions on these deal, only to see the PS4 version still beating them. They didn't just strike these deals to lose money AND have the PS4 beat them. No, they are trying to take on Sony, but these deals aren't helping.
Which brings me to the real issue. MS is just losing money on these deals with little to show for it. Sure, I sure that it boosts sales slightly, however, you have to look at the fact that its really not helping. MS is probably not making much, if anything, on the HW. Their money is coming from SW sales. They are bundling these games for FREE. So, they are paying not only for exclusive advertising, but also extra for the ability to package the game for free. A few extra units pushed isn't really going to make up for that.
thismeintiel said:
I'm not judging it based only on if it beats the PS4. However, you know damn well MS isn't happy that they spent millions on these deal, only to see the PS4 version still beating them. They didn't just strike these deals to lose money AND have the PS4 beat them. No, they are trying to take on Sony, but these deals aren't helping. Which brings me to the real issue. MS is just losing money on these deals with little to show for it. Sure, I sure that it boosts sales slightly, however, you have to look at the fact that its really not helping. MS is probably not making much, if anything, on the HW. Their money is coming from SW sales. They are bundling these games for FREE. So, they are paying not only for exclusive advertising, but also extra for the ability to package the game for free. A few extra units pushed isn't really going to make up for that. |
WOW!!!
Are you a part of Microsoft board of dirrectors? Or do you have access to confidantial intel and reports?
Jesus christ! We have a millionar among us.
Please, please. Give us the numbers, show us how much money MS is losing on those deals!
thismeintiel said:
I'm not judging it based only on if it beats the PS4. However, you know damn well MS isn't happy that they spent millions on these deal, only to see the PS4 version still beating them. They didn't just strike these deals to lose money AND have the PS4 beat them. No, they are trying to take on Sony, but these deals aren't helping. Which brings me to the real issue. MS is just losing money on these deals with little to show for it. Sure, I sure that it boosts sales slightly, however, you have to look at the fact that its really not helping. MS is probably not making much, if anything, on the HW. Their money is coming from SW sales. They are bundling these games for FREE. So, they are paying not only for exclusive advertising, but also extra for the ability to package the game for free. A few extra units pushed isn't really going to make up for that. |
i disagree they aren't helping. oh sure,. ps4 is beating xbone but xbone is still beating 360 over the same time frame. these sorts of deals keep xbone in the public spotlight as a viable competitor. without them xbox would be as dead globably is it already is in japan. i promise you they are helping even if the end result isn't "winning".
Dark_Feanor said:
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I could have posted a picture of a banana and it would be about as relevant as that graph.
Your original comment implies you believe the average joe couldn't have made better decisions than a 'multi billion company' aka, MS. Taking into account what's happened since the XBone reveal, your comment doesn't really hold water. X poster could have hypothetically known better than the insightful and omnipotent MS, purely because despite their billions and billions of dollars, the decision making on their end has been astronomically poor.

| LudicrousSpeed said: Sony's new IP development this gen? Like uh, Knack? I guess you have some killer inside information on loads of new Sony IP's no one knows about. Edit, Driveclub! I forgot Sony bought Evolution Studios. |
You're missing Bloodborne and The Order. There's also new IPs launching from at least 3 other studios that haven't been announced, yet. Not that that is what this thread is about.
Microsoft should consider bowing out.
Purchasing Mojang was a good decision, but xbox is not going anywhere.


| Dallinor said: I could have posted a picture of a banana and it would be about as relevant as that graph. Your original comment implies you believe the average joe couldn't have made better decisions than a 'multi billion company' aka, MS. Taking into account what's happened since the XBone reveal, your comment doesn't really hold water. X poster could have hypothetically known better than the insightful and omnipotent MS, purely because despite their billions and billions of dollars, the decision making on their end has been astronomically poor. |
This very site shows that dispite the "astronomically poor" decisons and while facing the most perfect home console ever made the XOne is doing 25% better than the 360 that: 1) was cheaper and sold at a loss 2) had no competition back in 2006 3) had very good word of mouth (3RLoD was still to come).
And I would bet that XOne owner today´s are more prone to subscribe to Gold Live than 360 owners back in 2006.
So, supose you are a MS share holder or member of the board of dirrectors, would you realy tell that Xbox division should stop promoting itself and its games?
It's either get annihilated or be less annihilated...
kitler53 said:
i disagree they aren't helping. oh sure,. ps4 is beating xbone but xbone is still beating 360 over the same time frame. these sorts of deals keep xbone in the public spotlight as a viable competitor. without them xbox would be as dead globably is it already is in japan. i promise you they are helping even if the end result isn't "winning". |
Why even bring this up when we both know that will change shortly, as the XBO is only ahead because of a great launch, but has since fallen greatly behind the 360 in monthly sales since the start of this year. Or do you honestly think the One will match the 360's 6.8M for the '06 year. I know I don't. For the same time period (Jan-mid Sept) that the One has sold 2.3M, the 360, in 2006, sold 3.4M. And the XBO has far less relevance in EU and Japan than the 360 did going forward.