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Mr Puggsly on 24 September 2014
BeElite said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Xbox Live has to be what makes Xbox financially worthwhile.

17 million is massive. The X1 appeals to core gamers so that subscription number should remain high in the coming years.


 no it does not, sales show that pretty blatantly. 

The subs will drop like a rock due to low sales. 

You obviously don't what a core gamer is. The software sales show the X1 audience is primarily core gamers.

Go do a little research if you don't understand.



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Too_Talls on 24 September 2014

Well lets just agree that the number is high and everything is for comparison's sake so by what ever means to get subscribers, be it shameless pay walls or what have you. the bottom line is in a search for SOMETHING! xbox wins the battle of video game paid accounts.

And sony has taken notice and copied the main strategy for achieving the feat.

It will probably still take a long time before sony can compete with the numbers but as for xb1 vs ps4...........ps4 just might have more paid subscriptions........but thats just a guess.

Another guess is I think it's very likely that the xb1 users as a whole has a higher percentage of adaptor to paid accounts than the ps4 side.



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Chris Hu on 24 September 2014
Farsala said:
Lot less then what was assumed. PS4 PS Plus might hit that in a few years.


Well with the X1 you really only need one Gold subscribtion per console if the main account is gold all the other accounts can use gold fuctions also.



Chris Hu on 24 September 2014
Too_Talls said:

Well lets just agree that the number is high and everything is for comparison's sake so by what ever means to get subscribers, be it shameless pay walls or what have you. the bottom line is in a search for SOMETHING! xbox wins the battle of video game paid accounts.

And sony has taken notice and copied the main strategy for achieving the feat.

It will probably still take a long time before sony can compete with the numbers but as for xb1 vs ps4...........ps4 just might have more paid subscriptions........but thats just a guess.

Another guess is I think it's very likely that the xb1 users as a whole has a higher percentage of adaptor to paid accounts than the ps4 side.


With the X1 you only need one gold account per console all the other accounts on the same console can share all the benefits of a gold account.



Talal on 24 September 2014
Chris Hu said:
Farsala said:
Lot less then what was assumed. PS4 PS Plus might hit that in a few years.


Well with the X1 you really only need one Gold subscribtion per console if the main account is gold all the other accounts can use gold fuctions also.


PS Plus also works that way.



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Chris Hu on 24 September 2014
Talal said:
Chris Hu said:
Farsala said:
Lot less then what was assumed. PS4 PS Plus might hit that in a few years.


Well with the X1 you really only need one Gold subscribtion per console if the main account is gold all the other accounts can use gold fuctions also.


PS Plus also works that way.


Well I never had PS Plus and I don't have a PS4 so I wouldn't know.



Too_Talls on 24 September 2014
Chris Hu said:
Too_Talls said:

Well lets just agree that the number is high and everything is for comparison's sake so by what ever means to get subscribers, be it shameless pay walls or what have you. the bottom line is in a search for SOMETHING! xbox wins the battle of video game paid accounts.

And sony has taken notice and copied the main strategy for achieving the feat.

It will probably still take a long time before sony can compete with the numbers but as for xb1 vs ps4...........ps4 just might have more paid subscriptions........but thats just a guess.

Another guess is I think it's very likely that the xb1 users as a whole has a higher percentage of adaptor to paid accounts than the ps4 side.


With the X1 you only need one gold account per console all the other accounts on the same console can share all the benefits of a gold account.

I know that much, as such, one gold account has been eliminated. My little bro doesn't need to stack up on gold anymore. Though just how big of an impact will the be to the overall number I wonder..........

I know of other people with multiple gamers but they all would sooner play onine on one account than have multiple suscriptions.

I just didn't want my bro fk'ing up my cod stats.



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MoHasanie on 24 September 2014
Mike_L said:


Now you're making stuff up. PS4 launch brought a 90% increase in PS Plus subscriptions and more than half of PS4 owners are PS Plus suscribers.

More than half of PS4 owners = at least 5.5 mill

5.5 mill = 90% increase

 

Based on this the actual number of paying PS Plus subscribers could very well be around 11.6 mill as 5.5 mill/90*100 (subscribers before PS4 launch) + 5.5 (subscribers joined after launch) = 11.6 (subscribers in total).

 

Since then there have been an increase due to Driveclub becoming free for subscribers in 2 weeks and an increase due to Destiny launch which made PS4 sales go up 300% in eg. the UK. Some of those new PS4+Destiny owners might want to play online. Just a hunch :)

I don't think I agree with your math. The 90% increase was actually reported in January 2014. At that time, they had sold 4.2m PS4s. So, technically, that would mean that before PS4, there was around 1-2m PS+ subscribers. The last time we heard from Sony, they said that approximately half of PS4 owners have PS+, and at the time they had shipped 7m units. So using the latest info that we have, there are 3.5m PS4 PS+ subscriptions, bringing the total to around 5-6m in May. 



    

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Lafiel on 24 September 2014
shikamaru317 said:

How would this guy know how many Gold subs there are? He doesn't work for MS. And somehow I doubt they just told him the number. I'd guess the number is around 25-30m personally.

again..

he is the CEO of Wargaming.net, the developer behind World of Tanks, which is a massive hit title MS is happy to have exclusively on their platforms

why would MS not tell the man how much potential reach the game can have on MS consoles (as f2p titles like WoT need Gold subscriptions) ??



Imaginedvl on 24 September 2014
Blood_Tears said:
Imaginedvl said:

 


People like me huh? lol I don't bash MS at every opportunity, I actually don't mind the Xbox. I had a blast with my X360 playing Gears and the early JRPG's on it and I'll buy an X1 if they get some exclusive JRPG's on it as well.  It's the defensive MS supporters I don't care for. The kind that just let an online forum or any potential negative news go to their head and assume their positions in the console warzzz..but you wouldn't know anything about that would you?  no, because I can tell your're more level headed then that......

Gears and early JRPGs on 360! Om my... my bad then, you are definitly a very objective forum poster, not biased in anyway :)
Glad we figured out how objective and non-biased is the other, now let's be friends and talk about the topic again!

So 17m is low, what would you expect to be today? You said that 4.5m new customers (up from 12.5m) in few years would be low ? 

P.S: I want to make sure you are not doing any mistake again, we are talking about paying subscribers, which are referred as "gold" on Xbox Live at the opposite of "silver" members. It is like PS+ on Playstation if this can give you a sense of comparison.