Nice try? at what, posting in a thread?   Give up the victim act please, it's just pathetic at this point.   And what am i trying to do here?  Please let everyone in on your wise ways..

And no it wasn't 30 million accounts, it actually was 40 million accounts in January 2012 that Balmer disclosed.

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/60687-xbox-live-users-topple-40-million

Prior to that in 2010 they had a 50% attach rate that put them to 12.5 M gold users

http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/02/microsoft-only-50-percent-of-xbox-live-users-pay-for-gold-subscription/

So yes maybe I am off on the 30M gold users over all. However, since 2010 they have sold over 35 million X360's and 5M X1's and you think they only gained 4.5M more gold users?  It's more then likely that MS has gained a lot more Gold users since 2010 and lost a % of them after the X1 launch.

It was accounts in general (including silvers). I expect this number to be way higher today. Even PSN had 60 million (again, non paying) at some point.
17 million paying users is huge I think.

Hope you are not serious :) People like you are funny, they are bashing MS at any opportunity and expect people to act like they are poor innocent objective forum posters. Assume yourself now please!

In any case, 17 millions is still a massive number . Losing some of their gold subscribers with the X1 or not.

Also your second post makes more sense and I'm glad you realized and admited that your 30 million gold subscribers was completly off.

It is true tho that following the trend it may be higher than 17m today and therefor this number is off. OR Microsoft effectively lost a lot of subscribers (with what happen with the Xbox One it would not be surprising).

Yeah. I disconntinued my PS+ sub. I almost never have the time to play online. So It's not needed as of now. But only 17 million. I seriosuly thought it was more. Compared to that 80m userbase. That's pretty quick drop.

How would this guy know how many Gold subs there are? He doesn't work for MS. And somehow I doubt they just told him the number. I'd guess the number is around 25-30m personally.

I was obviously joking and knew that you didn't mean that

Talking about if he knows the numbers, he did have to know the number to even consider a 360 version. Not sure if that is what MoHasanie tried to say but since it's a f2p game for Xbox Live gold subscribers he obviously asked MS how many people are paying for it to have an idea about if WoT can do good on 360 or if it is a lost case. Question is from when the 17 million number is. I think it's a number from 2014, maybe from few month ago or so. 

You won't make a f2p multiplayer only game with that scale for a console without asking the console manufacturer for these important numbers. You could lose millions if your game will flop because you didn't know it better and just guessed the numbers. 

But I think that it wasn't meant to be talked about in public so that he could get some trouble if MS will realize that he talked openly about this.