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Me and Stickball both believe in over 10 million X360s sold in 2008, so no, it's not past its peak.

That was a long article (I didn't read much) but as people have pointed out it got the numbers wrong.

Some people get blinded because of the recent success of the PS3, but if you examine the numbers - and if vgchartz is to be trusted - you see that the X360 is selling better YOY (as Stickball said), and is selling over 500,000 consoles per month. That is exactly on track with my prediction, and after the price drop, which should come soon, the X360 may reach 600,000 per month. Add to that 3.5-4 mill sold in the holidays (Nov-Dec) and we have a 10 million X360 year.



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Also people keep saying the PS3 will have more games this year then the 360 when according to the release schedule so far the 360 has more games. If you look at March and April it seems like it is something that will continue. Of course things could change so who knows. Also I know people keep saying the PS3 has more AAA games then the 360 which again it is debatable as we don't know that to be the case until the games are actually released.

Bottomline is yes the PS3 is doing better but what do people expect for it to go but up. Similar the 360 was not just going to run away it when they have two great competitors and they just flat out refuse to lose move on the 360 hence the lack of price drops etc. Will be interesting year especially following it here in vgchartz heh



I didn't read the entire article, but I don't really think the 360 is past it's peak, but I think it's getting there. The 3rd year of a consoles life usually is the peak, and I don't really expect it to be much different for the 360. At the same time, I don't expect it's sales to increase much YOY simply because after so many big name, great games came out last year (Halo 3, ME, Bioshock, COD4, etc), I just don't see how this year could match up to it. And even if it does, I don't expect sales to be too much higher.

Also this "and arguably the best traditional controller of those available" I don't agree with. I'd take the PS3 controller over the 360 controller, the Wii controller over both, and the keyboard over all of them.



Slimebeast said:
Me and Stickball both believe in over 10 million X360s sold in 2008, so no, it's not past its peak.

That was a long article (I didn't read much) but as people have pointed out it got the numbers wrong.

Some people get blinded because of the recent success of the PS3, but if you examine the numbers - and if vgchartz is to be trusted - you see that the X360 is selling better YOY (as Stickball said), and is selling over 500,000 consoles per month. That is exactly on track with my prediction, and after the price drop, which should come soon, the X360 may reach 600,000 per month. Add to that 3.5-4 mill sold in the holidays (Nov-Dec) and we have a 10 million X360 year.

 ok, so the 360 gets to 600000/month. cool.

FYI, the PS3 has sold 716000 units in the last month (last four weeks) I'm not saying the 360 is finished, but I am saying that it will be very difficult for the 360 to ever outsell the PS3 consistently in the future. (whether it con do that in NA alone is another story.)



Not trying to be a fanboy. Of course, it's hard when you own the best console eve... dang it

I think this article is a little premature. However, if the PS3's recent surge in popularity (in NA in particular) is substained, especially once GTAIV launches, then the 360 is at least going to have a real perception problem.

It will be perceived as the losing console, even if it's still ahead by millions technically. That's never a selling point. Not to consumers, not to industry and not to investors. So MS will have to fight hard to at least keep the race too close to call.

Even though it's guaranteed to sell better than xbox, going from 2nd last generation to 3rd (ie: last!) this generation shows fundimental weakness unless it's a damn close 3rd. But heck, GC was only about 2m behind xbox (is actually ahead now) when 360 launched and it was considered a flop (profitability notwithstanding) by all.

Last year MS had the best game line-up. No one disputes that. This year... It's good, really good, but not as great as last year and PS3's will be just as good if not better. So how does MS maintain it's momentum is the question we're all wanting to see the answer too.



 

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Gamerace said:
I think this article is a little premature. However, if the PS3's recent surge in popularity (in NA in particular) is substained, especially once GTAIV launches, then the 360 is at least going to have a real perception problem.

It will be perceived as the losing console, even if it's still ahead by millions technically. That's never a selling point. Not to consumers, not to industry and not to investors. So MS will have to fight hard to at least keep the race too close to call.

That is a good point, and something that has pissed me off for a while now. I think MS made a big mistake by being over-confident going into the '07 holidays relying only on the (then) superior gaming library, and not dropping the price like the PS3 did. I'm of the strong opinion that they should have dropped the price too, building on the strong momentum that they had. Because now, if they want to do a drastic price drop it would by many be seen as an act of desperation. The PS3 in just three months went from loser to winner, and MS did nothing about it. Now they can only play catch up.



I know everyone wants a price drop including me but is really not that bad at least here in the states. Is others or even Japan that need a serious price drop. Remember they sold a hell of alot from September to December at the higher price just having two packed in games. Now that they are getting rid of all those systems they will drop the price and be on a role again.

MS is over confident it seems but it is not stupid. They have access to research that go beyond what we have available and have a good idea on how to make money which they done finally in the last couple of quarters.

Just saying don't sleep on the 360. They may not do things the way we want them to but they are the ones with billions of dollars not us :)



elnino334 said:
 

The 360 wasn't hyped as much as the PS3 promising two hdmi ports with dual 1080P screens etc.  The PS3 had all these launch games like msg and others that have yet to see th light of day etc.  All the 360 has had all this time is being the first one out of the gate and having a great library of games.  All this domination stuff is made up by fanboys.  The reason SONY blew it as you claim is because of the 360 else we would still have a $600 PS3 to this date.  Competition brought the PS3 down to $399 not SONY screw up at least in my opinion.

The 360 was doing fine for a $399 console same with the PS3 though once tose prices dropped sales increased and will continue to do so.  Basically with your logic the PS3 is also a fraud? 

Again your saying the PS3 is also lacking the WoW factor?  COuld it be that some of the earlier 360 games where basically PS2 ports?  How about when you finally saw a game build from the ground up like gears it didn't wow you?  Guess is just personal opinion and I think yours is mainly in the minority.  Plenty of reasons to like a 360 usually the main reason gamers like a system and that is games.  As you mentioned the 360 has a great library so what is your point? 

Not going to comment on that paragraph since your just rambling.

Finally you do make some good points in your final paragraph though the AAA games part is debatable at this point.  Guess you can just keep hoping the 360 goes away somehow.

Yes, I am saying currently the PS3 doesn't have a "Wow" factor either. Its why neither of the consoles sell as well as the Wii. The PS3 does have some ambitious things coming. Home can change the way we view a gaming console entirely. Instead of just turning on a console, playing a game, and then turning it off, you can have your idle time be occupied by meeting up with friends, family, or clans. Clan recruiting would be different, peolple who like cetain games can meet up and make new friends.

All the extra features of the PS3 aside, on the gaming side the PS3 has been stated by developers to have huge untapped potential. We've seen parts of that in Heavy Rain, Final Fantasy, Killzone, RFOM2, GT5. Those games are jaw dropping, atleast by the looks of it so far. Nothing up to this point on the 360 has even near the levels those games are shooting for. No preview of any game has hinted towards being near that level either. GeoW2 may, but we haven't seen any video/images from that yet. Its been over a year since Gears of War, and that is still the best looking game on the 360. 

Thats where my issue relies. I don't want the 360 to go away, I couldn't care less. And evidentally, neither can the rest of the world outside of NA after Halo 3. Any exclusive on the 360, save Bioshock, Gears, would only leave me slightly impressed if it appeared on the original Xbox. Sure the 360 might have a few games that will get lots of publicity or have great storylines that will sell, but no game on the 360 is going to sell just because of the looks or what its trying to technically. Thats what people paid over $300 dollars for. Its for a HUGE upgrade, not a PS2.5. The 360 has a good library of solid games like I said, but not for the reasons we upgraded consoles for.

Of course you can say its all my opinion, which it 100% is. If you think Halo 3 is a masterpiece that we couldn't even imagine was possible on the PS2 or Xbox, good for you. I, however think that "next-gen" should be ALOT better than all that. If thats all this generation has to offer, then I doubt the PS3 and 360 combined will ever reach half the PS2's install base combined. Complete failure.



Jandre002 said:
I think what has happened is that people hyped the 360 too much. It only began "dominating" the PS3 last August, and even the domination every talked about was due to Sony blowing it big time with the PS3, and Halo 3 being released.

The 360 was never doing amazingly. It was just doing better than a failing PS3 and a failure, the original Xbox. But there was never a 360 rave or revolution except on the Internet. I'm glad sites are starting to reveal the 360 for the fraud that it is.Its a good console, its lineup is better than the PS3, but it doesn't do anything thats really breath taking.

Think about the jump from the PS1 to PS2. Now think about the jump from PS2 to 360. Its not even close. Its not RROD as much as it is the wow factor. It lacks anything that makes you NEED to upgrade. And thats why it might do well with fans of its software lineup, but those who aren't looking for a reason to like the 360 will never find one (at this rate, atleast.)

Many of you also have to admit, if GTAIV was released tommorow the PS3 would own that launch. It may not sell more software, but its hardware boost would be 3x that of the Xbox360. Unless Microsoft really has a huge budget they are throwing at the launch to make it seem like a 360 exclusive, even that extra content isn't going to save them this year. They wont even come close to last years totals since Sony is selling lots more now, and Gears 2 is absolutely not Halo 3.

Even the 3/4 most recent multiplatform games are "better on the PS3" according to gamepro. We have seen that the Arcade doesnt sell well because of recent sales, so there is a $50 difference between the 360 and PS3. That difference is nullified by the Live yearly cost. So when you can get the experience for the same price, with more features, and bigger AAA titles being released this year why go with the 360? 15-30% chance your hardware will fail, and the biggest game is behind you.

Oh, please.  Moving from standard res gaming to high-res gaming with significantly more horsepower isn't much of a jump?



i don't really think it's past it yet. There still is GTAIV (YES I KNOW IT'S MULTIPLATFORM) and Gears so it still has life in it.......Maybe next year....then it will be past its peak