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ALKO on 17 May 2007
davygee said:

Again, people can't help themselves.

Of course the PSP is not doomed....well in as much that it won't disappear overnight like the Dreamcast.

These Nintendo Fan Boys really are desperate to see anything other than Nintendo fail....but more so Sony...obviously couldn't handle what happened to the Gamecube and Nintendo 64.

Anyway, just enjoy the fact that you own a popular system this time round and everything is rosey in the Nintendo garden....but don't try and drag down owners of the PSP to make you feel better.

Also, as I've stated a few times in the last few days...I think there is a bit of jealousy in there....they want all the exclusives for the DS and can't bare to see games like FFVII:CC and Dissidia going to the PSP.


 a fact is a fact.

 

psp hardware-->good

psp software-->bad

 

what does it mean???

 

people buy psp for: 

-media player

-piracy

-brand

 

 

this is a lesson to sony.

but i don't' think that psp2 will learn this lesson.

 

I think that Microsoft will ride portable market with a console/tablet...

and sony will do the same...

 

only Ninntendo will continue to do REAL portable console.

 

I think that gamers that loves games will not buy sony and microsoft job lot...

 

sony' pr themself said that psp is on another market...

 

so face the truth...

 

future sony and microsoft psp2 and xboxp(ortable) will not be considered consoles...

 

I'm a gamer.

I play games.

I play them on a console. 

 

 



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Tispower on 17 May 2007
windbane said:
davygee said:

Again, people can't help themselves.

Of course the PSP is not doomed....well in as much that it won't disappear overnight like the Dreamcast.

These Nintendo Fan Boys really are desperate to see anything other than Nintendo fail....but more so Sony...obviously couldn't handle what happened to the Gamecube and Nintendo 64.

Anyway, just enjoy the fact that you own a popular system this time round and everything is rosey in the Nintendo garden....but don't try and drag down owners of the PSP to make you feel better.

Also, as I've stated a few times in the last few days...I think there is a bit of jealousy in there....they want all the exclusives for the DS and can't bare to see games like FFVII:CC and Dissidia going to the PSP.


Very nice summary of what is going on here.


Agree aswell. Also, although the PSP may not be selling well compared to the DS, it's doing well when compared to other consoles for the amount of time it has been on sale, and for a company that has just only entered the handheld market. Also I remember someone on these forums saying mobile phone gaming will make portable consoles obselete, if so Sony-Ericsson is likely to be at the forefront of it, I mean I can already get Ridge Racer on my Sony phone.



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DKII on 17 May 2007

So someone remind me when a week has passed and point me to this thread, right?

 And just to stay somewhat on topic, of Sony releases a new model that deals with the loading times and battery life and has built-in memory and sticks in the $150 range, I'll be sure to get that before a 360/PS3 no doubt.



Lord N on 17 May 2007

 

It's funny how whenever someone wants to bash the PSP, they always do so by comparing its sales figures to those of the DS. That's really flawed because the DS is outselling everything, and if you're going to bash the PSP for being outsold by the DS, then what does that say about the 360 which is being outsold worldwide by the PSP? The 360 outsells it by a slim margin in N. America, but the PSP destroys it in Japan, and in Europe, where it launched a mere two months prior to the 360, it has moved more than twice as many units.

Even when you compare it to the DS, the only place where it's really behind is in Japan. Without Japan, the difference is actually about 25 million to 16 million.

The PSP has already outsold every handheld that wasn't made by Nintendo several times over, and is on the verge of matching the sales of the Xbox and Gamecube in half the time.

In regards to the comment about the DS being "kiddie", it does have a very broad appeal, but handhelds have traditionally skewed towards a younger audience. As has been said, they keep kids quiet in the car and in the grocery store, bank, etc. The main draw of a handheld is portability, and kids have a lot more time on the go to play games.

The PSP was meant to target adults moreso than other handhelds. You can tell that by the game library, the multimedia functions, and the launch price, and it's done a damn good job in a market that has been dominated by Nintendo since the beginning.

 

 

 

 

 



 

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Gballzack on 17 May 2007
Lord N said:

 

1. It's funny how whenever someone wants to bash the PSP, they always do so by comparing its sales figures to those of the DS. That's really flawed because the DS is outselling everything, and if you're going to bash the PSP for being outsold by the DS, then what does that say about the 360 which is being outsold worldwide by the PSP? The 360 outsells it by a slim margin in N. America, but the PSP destroys it in Japan, and in Europe, where it launched a mere two months prior to the 360, it has moved more than twice as many units.

2. Even when you compare it to the DS, the only place where it's really behind is in Japan. Without Japan, the difference is actually about 25 million to 16 million.

3. The PSP has already outsold every handheld that wasn't made by Nintendo several times over, and is on the verge of matching the sales of the Xbox and Gamecube in half the time.

4. In regards to the comment about the DS being "kiddie", it does have a very broad appeal, but handhelds have traditionally skewed towards a younger audience. As has been said, they keep kids quiet in the car and in the grocery store, bank, etc. The main draw of a handheld is portability, and kids have a lot more time on the go to play games.

5. The PSP was meant to target adults moreso than other handhelds. You can tell that by the game library, the multimedia functions, and the launch price, and it's done a damn good job in a market that has been dominated by Nintendo since the beginning.


1. Well yeah, you'd of thought handhelds would have competed with handhelds right? What a joke right? *rolls eyes. Oh yes and comparing apples to oranges (handhelds to consoles) doesn't really so much establish a valid point in your argument as it does to show desperation in trying to vindicate pride in a failing system.

2. Well then let's nuke Japan, because they don't count anytime they support a system you don't like, wonderful logic, why do we even include on the chartz here? Brilliant.

3. Care to show any figures to back this up? And pardon me, "any handheld Nintendo hasn't made several times over"? You mean like the Virtual boy? Lol. And again with the comparing handhelds to consoles, is that your only real defense?

4. Not this shit again, Nintendo could have "MURDER-RAPE-A-BABY" the game as their top selling title and you'd still find an excuse to call them kiddie crap. And don't act like you're some damn market analysist on the matter either, it just makes your attempts to feignly play the unbaised realist all the more pathetic.

5. Yes Adults, because adults like short battery lives, a pitiful game library, pop culture trend movies that appeal largely to flighty teenagers, and a UMD format designed specifically to be child friendly with a protective case. Wow is there no limit to your brilliance?



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your mother on 18 May 2007
Gballzack said:
Lord N said:

 

1. It's funny how whenever someone wants to bash the PSP, they always do so by comparing its sales figures to those of the DS. That's really flawed because the DS is outselling everything, and if you're going to bash the PSP for being outsold by the DS, then what does that say about the 360 which is being outsold worldwide by the PSP? The 360 outsells it by a slim margin in N. America, but the PSP destroys it in Japan, and in Europe, where it launched a mere two months prior to the 360, it has moved more than twice as many units.

2. Even when you compare it to the DS, the only place where it's really behind is in Japan. Without Japan, the difference is actually about 25 million to 16 million.

3. The PSP has already outsold every handheld that wasn't made by Nintendo several times over, and is on the verge of matching the sales of the Xbox and Gamecube in half the time.

4. In regards to the comment about the DS being "kiddie", it does have a very broad appeal, but handhelds have traditionally skewed towards a younger audience. As has been said, they keep kids quiet in the car and in the grocery store, bank, etc. The main draw of a handheld is portability, and kids have a lot more time on the go to play games.

5. The PSP was meant to target adults moreso than other handhelds. You can tell that by the game library, the multimedia functions, and the launch price, and it's done a damn good job in a market that has been dominated by Nintendo since the beginning.


1. Well yeah, you'd of thought handhelds would have competed with handhelds right? What a joke right? *rolls eyes. Oh yes and comparing apples to oranges (handhelds to consoles) doesn't really so much establish a valid point in your argument as it does to show desperation in trying to vindicate pride in a failing system.

2. Well then let's nuke Japan, because they don't count anytime they support a system you don't like, wonderful logic, why do we even include on the chartz here? Brilliant.

3. Care to show any figures to back this up? And pardon me, "any handheld Nintendo hasn't made several times over"? You mean like the Virtual boy? Lol. And again with the comparing handhelds to consoles, is that your only real defense?

4. Not this shit again, Nintendo could have "MURDER-RAPE-A-BABY" the game as their top selling title and you'd still find an excuse to call them kiddie crap. And don't act like you're some damn market analysist on the matter either, it just makes your attempts to feignly play the unbaised realist all the more pathetic.

5. Yes Adults, because adults like short battery lives, a pitiful game library, pop culture trend movies that appeal largely to flighty teenagers, and a UMD format designed specifically to be child friendly with a protective case. Wow is there no limit to your brilliance?


Points 4 and 5: If you throw a brick from the highest building in Tokyo there's a 50% chance it will hit an adult carrying an NDS Lite.

And yeah, that stat was coaxed out of my rectum, but there are far more adults that own NDS Lites than Lord N would like to give it credit for.



digitalkarma on 18 May 2007

with games like God of War and Final Fantasy Tactics Lion Wars, Castlevania Chronicles, Star Ocean 1 & 2 coming, i think PSP will do alright. bring on the rereleases!



Gballzack on 18 May 2007
digitalkarma said:
with games like God of War and Final Fantasy Tactics Lion Wars, Castlevania Chronicles, Star Ocean 1 & 2 coming, i think PSP will do alright. bring on the rereleases!

Nothing wrong with that, just funny that if this was the case for the NDS the PSP fans would never let us live down being a rerelease handheld.



davygee on 18 May 2007
Gballzack said:

5. Yes Adults, because adults like short battery lives, a pitiful game library, pop culture trend movies that appeal largely to flighty teenagers, and a UMD format designed specifically to be child friendly with a protective case. Wow is there no limit to your brilliance?


What constitutes a short battery life....1hr, 2hs, or 6hrs.....although the DS has a better battery life....I normally get around 5-6hrs anyway from my PSP...I don't see that as being short????  Not as short as the Ipod Video that has a life of around 2 hours.

Pitiful game library.....mmmm....i've already done this.....wrong wrong and more wrong you are....you will find that the PSP has a better more varied game library than the DS...I think? 



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PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

windbane on 18 May 2007
Gballzack said:
Lord N said:

 

1. It's funny how whenever someone wants to bash the PSP, they always do so by comparing its sales figures to those of the DS. That's really flawed because the DS is outselling everything, and if you're going to bash the PSP for being outsold by the DS, then what does that say about the 360 which is being outsold worldwide by the PSP? The 360 outsells it by a slim margin in N. America, but the PSP destroys it in Japan, and in Europe, where it launched a mere two months prior to the 360, it has moved more than twice as many units.

2. Even when you compare it to the DS, the only place where it's really behind is in Japan. Without Japan, the difference is actually about 25 million to 16 million.

3. The PSP has already outsold every handheld that wasn't made by Nintendo several times over, and is on the verge of matching the sales of the Xbox and Gamecube in half the time.

4. In regards to the comment about the DS being "kiddie", it does have a very broad appeal, but handhelds have traditionally skewed towards a younger audience. As has been said, they keep kids quiet in the car and in the grocery store, bank, etc. The main draw of a handheld is portability, and kids have a lot more time on the go to play games.

5. The PSP was meant to target adults moreso than other handhelds. You can tell that by the game library, the multimedia functions, and the launch price, and it's done a damn good job in a market that has been dominated by Nintendo since the beginning.


1. Well yeah, you'd of thought handhelds would have competed with handhelds right? What a joke right? *rolls eyes. Oh yes and comparing apples to oranges (handhelds to consoles) doesn't really so much establish a valid point in your argument as it does to show desperation in trying to vindicate pride in a failing system.

2. Well then let's nuke Japan, because they don't count anytime they support a system you don't like, wonderful logic, why do we even include on the chartz here? Brilliant.

3. Care to show any figures to back this up? And pardon me, "any handheld Nintendo hasn't made several times over"? You mean like the Virtual boy? Lol. And again with the comparing handhelds to consoles, is that your only real defense?

4. Not this shit again, Nintendo could have "MURDER-RAPE-A-BABY" the game as their top selling title and you'd still find an excuse to call them kiddie crap. And don't act like you're some damn market analysist on the matter either, it just makes your attempts to feignly play the unbaised realist all the more pathetic.

5. Yes Adults, because adults like short battery lives, a pitiful game library, pop culture trend movies that appeal largely to flighty teenagers, and a UMD format designed specifically to be child friendly with a protective case. Wow is there no limit to your brilliance?


*sigh* Another one...

1. His point is that yes, the DS is doing much better, but the PSP is doing well.

2. Funny you should mention the charts, because for number 3 you seem to forget they exist...you know...on this site...

3. Why should anyone show you figures that are readily available on this website?! But hey, since you are sooo lazy...

ConsoleMakerDateJapanAmericasPALTotal
NintendoMar-20070.00 / 32.470.00 / 44.060.00 / 42.160.00 / 118.69
SonyMar-20071.43 / 25.422.82 / 47.682.39 / 44.796.64 / 117.89
SonyMar-20070.00 / 21.590.00 / 40.780.00 / 40.120.00 / 102.49
NintendoMar-20070.04 / 16.662.00 / 41.100.66 / 21.712.70 / 79.47
NintendoMar-20070.00 / 19.230.00 / 34.000.00 / 8.560.00 / 61.79
NintendoMar-20070.00 / 17.150.00 / 23.350.00 / 8.580.00 / 49.08
NintendoMar-20074.50 / 16.024.23 / 11.744.73 / 12.5213.46 / 40.28
NintendoMar-20070.00 / 5.550.00 / 20.630.00 / 6.750.00 / 32.93
SegaMar-20070.00 / 3.590.00 / 17.800.00 / 9.360.00 / 30.75
SonyMar-20071.55 / 6.920.01 / 9.580.89 / 8.892.45 / 25.39
MicrosoftMar-20070.00 / 0.530.08 / 16.420.03 / 7.810.11 / 24.76
NintendoMar-20070.00 / 4.020.37 / 12.810.01 / 4.760.38 / 21.59
MicrosoftMar-20070.19 / 0.393.34 / 6.961.42 / 3.614.93 / 10.94
SegaMar-20070.00 / 1.790.00 / 5.540.00 / 3.340.00 / 10.67

As you can see, the PSP passed the Xbox and the Gamecube. The gamegear is the most successful handheld that isn't Nintendo's (a concept you seemed to have trouble with, since Nintendo also made the Virtual Boy...but whatever), and as you can see the PSP has shipped 2.5 times more than the gamegear ever did. The PSP will catch the Genesis and N64 this year or next, too. We'll see if it catches the SNES.

4. Is it any surprise that more kids play with handhelds than adults? Whatever...

5. I get great battery life playing games off my memory stick, and with my X2-battery case I can go half a day without worrying, at least. That's when I'm playing games and videos. If I'm just listening to music or podcasts with the screen off I'm not sure how long it lasts because it never drains my battery all the way before I play stuff inbetween. Sony itself has said it is targeting an older demographic now, but you can ignore that if you want.