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Ka-pi96 said:

I'd say that's decided by whether they stick around and keep buying games in a variety of genres. So those that regularly buy the consoles and games such as COD, GTA, Halo, Infamous, Zelda etc and keep doing that are not casual. While those that buy only like 1 console or game and are unlikely to ever buy any others are casual.


And can we get an accurate portrayal of how many of these people bought a Wii, PS3 or Xbox 360?



                            

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bubblegamer said:
kljesta64 said:
bubblegamer said:
kljesta64 said:

nothing is going to beat Wii

PS4 will, just like it's PS2 and PS1 brethern did

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

Nah, Japan is quite tasteless with the same games over and over. PS1 and PS2 aren't off topic as they are Sony consoles just like PS4 is and there is a tradition at work here. As someone on this website you should have noticed this by now.


Japan tasteless ? lol where do you think the awesome JRPGs ,beat em up, adventure etc. games come from ?

I dont know about any tradition ...



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tak13 said:
Slarvax said:
How did the 3DS beat the DS while having 1 holiday!?

....remember first year,fat ds...dslite skyrocketed the ds series...and is the main reason that ds dominates 3ds! Let me show you, the lt sales individually!fat ds 18.79m , ds dslite 93.86m, dsi/xl 41.35m(28.43m/12.92m)

I remember buying a psp and my litle sister a ds, then she was not a big gamer so I ended up with both, even though it was pink, i loved that ds. The world ends with you is by far my favorite ds game or handheald game ever.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
kljesta64 said:

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

YTD 5.6

x2 10.2 + 10.1 = 20.3 million 

so yeah it is possible

Don't know why you have to imply that buying a PS4 means your brainless, but I guess its because of this:

yeah that was unnecessary  



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Ka-pi96 said:
Carl2291 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Yeah they want them, but they don't depend on casuals to sell decently.

And who is to decide what is and isnt a "casual" gamer?

I'd say that's decided by whether they stick around and keep buying games in a variety of genres. So those that regularly buy the consoles and games such as COD, GTA, Halo, Infamous, Zelda etc and keep doing that are not casual. While those that buy only like 1 console or game and are unlikely to ever buy any others are casual.

Its a pointless distinction because sales tracks consumers not gamers.

The only difference between "casual" and "hardcore" as consumers is that "Hardcore" is more likely to buy stuff, but in the context of consoles thats pretty much irrelevant.

Units sold is the only thing that matters.



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kljesta64 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
kljesta64 said:

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

YTD 5.6

x2 10.2 + 10.1 = 20.3 million 

so yeah it is possible

Don't know why you have to imply that buying a PS4 means your brainless, but I guess its because of this:

yeah that was unnecessary  

so was bolded



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kljesta64 said:
bubblegamer said:
kljesta64 said:

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

Nah, Japan is quite tasteless with the same games over and over. PS1 and PS2 aren't off topic as they are Sony consoles just like PS4 is and there is a tradition at work here. As someone on this website you should have noticed this by now.


Japan tasteless ? lol where do you think the awesome JRPGs ,beat em up, adventure etc. games come from ?

I dont know about any tradition ...

Not everyone thinks JRPG's are awesome lol! @ bolded, what have you been doing on this website then? Don't you see the sales the consoles in question have posted?



eva01beserk said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Carl2291 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Personally if you want to compare generations i would ignore the Wii since that number is heavily inflated by the casuals going for the motion control hype. It really doesn't tell you anything about the actual console gaming market.

Comparing PS3/360 to PS4/XOne this gen is doing well so far.


We should ignore the Wii because it was a gigantic success with the market it was aimed at. Yep.

Indeed it was a great succes in the casual gaming market, but not the ''hardcore'' gaming market. And apart from some of Nintendo's own offerings, only casual software sold well on it. For the big gaming franchises like GTA, Assassins Creed's, Destiny etc. it just doesn't matter if Nintendo's consoles sell 20m or 100m. Those games don't sell well on it anyway. The install base of their consoles just don't really tell anything about the state of the gaming industry, or if developers will be able to make back the budget of big AAA games.

That's why i think the comparison is about Playstation and Xbox. Nintendo's huge drop off in sold consoles pretty much effects Nintendo and Nintendo alone, to the hardcore gaming market and most developers it just doesn't matter much.

Bullshit response. Everyone knows that a lot of casuals bought the wii, but a lot of hardcore gamers did to. The only problem was that those hardcore gamers did not just have the wii, it was usually acompani by a ps3/360 or all 3. People where not going to buy the way more inferior version of a game for wii while they had their other hd console with the wii. But almost all the games exclusive for the wii, hardcore or casual, mainly hardcore, sold preety well. Everybondy know the wii was a great secondary console for hardcore gamers. Only casuals had it as a primary console, or poor people like me, wich I got a ps3 very late in the gen.

The point is if you count the Wii the 7 gen consoles will always end up higher combined than the 8 gen. The problem with that is that it would make you think that the market is shrinking, while in fact the core gaming market could be growing. It's just the casuals that have moved on.

Developers like Bungie are not going to spend up to 500M on a new franchise because a Nintendo consoles sells well, their games don't even release on them. The succes of Nintendo's consoles has almost zero influence on thirth party's development of big games. It's the install base of Playstation and Xbox consoles that's important for these games. And if that install base is growing and Nintendo's loyal following stays about the same, the industry is growing.

And if you really want to count Wii, than count 20% of it's sales witch is the amount of sales it would have hade without the casuals hype. Or as the-pi-guy mentioned, use Gamecube numbers.



Ka-pi96 said:
Carl2291 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I'd say that's decided by whether they stick around and keep buying games in a variety of genres. So those that regularly buy the consoles and games such as COD, GTA, Halo, Infamous, Zelda etc and keep doing that are not casual. While those that buy only like 1 console or game and are unlikely to ever buy any others are casual.

And can we get an accurate portrayal of how many of these people bought a Wii, PS3 or Xbox 360?

Accurate? Not really. Although we can make assumptions based on the sales, PS3 and Xbox 360 continued selling for a much longer period and game sales stayed high throughout the gen. Wii sold really well to start with but dropped off massively, same with Wii game sales.

That doesn't conclusively prove anything but it does suggest there were many more casuals that bought a Wii than a PS3 or Xbox 360 and simply lost interest as the years went on, as casuals would do.

Not a good assuption as the wii was half the price as the 360 and amost a third of the ps3, People bought it early as to why the sales where so high, so everybody that wanted it got it early so no reason as to why it would sell continuosly. By the time the wii stoped selling it was almost 30-40m I think ahead of the competition. Casuals did left the wii, but gamers kept buying games and it reflected on sales, while dance games and other casual crap stoped selling, hardcore games like zelda, metroin and others kept selling well.



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