eva01beserk said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Carl2291 said:
AnthonyW86 said: Personally if you want to compare generations i would ignore the Wii since that number is heavily inflated by the casuals going for the motion control hype. It really doesn't tell you anything about the actual console gaming market. Comparing PS3/360 to PS4/XOne this gen is doing well so far. |
We should ignore the Wii because it was a gigantic success with the market it was aimed at. Yep.
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Indeed it was a great succes in the casual gaming market, but not the ''hardcore'' gaming market. And apart from some of Nintendo's own offerings, only casual software sold well on it. For the big gaming franchises like GTA, Assassins Creed's, Destiny etc. it just doesn't matter if Nintendo's consoles sell 20m or 100m. Those games don't sell well on it anyway. The install base of their consoles just don't really tell anything about the state of the gaming industry, or if developers will be able to make back the budget of big AAA games.
That's why i think the comparison is about Playstation and Xbox. Nintendo's huge drop off in sold consoles pretty much effects Nintendo and Nintendo alone, to the hardcore gaming market and most developers it just doesn't matter much.
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Bullshit response. Everyone knows that a lot of casuals bought the wii, but a lot of hardcore gamers did to. The only problem was that those hardcore gamers did not just have the wii, it was usually acompani by a ps3/360 or all 3. People where not going to buy the way more inferior version of a game for wii while they had their other hd console with the wii. But almost all the games exclusive for the wii, hardcore or casual, mainly hardcore, sold preety well. Everybondy know the wii was a great secondary console for hardcore gamers. Only casuals had it as a primary console, or poor people like me, wich I got a ps3 very late in the gen.
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The point is if you count the Wii the 7 gen consoles will always end up higher combined than the 8 gen. The problem with that is that it would make you think that the market is shrinking, while in fact the core gaming market could be growing. It's just the casuals that have moved on.
Developers like Bungie are not going to spend up to 500M on a new franchise because a Nintendo consoles sells well, their games don't even release on them. The succes of Nintendo's consoles has almost zero influence on thirth party's development of big games. It's the install base of Playstation and Xbox consoles that's important for these games. And if that install base is growing and Nintendo's loyal following stays about the same, the industry is growing.
And if you really want to count Wii, than count 20% of it's sales witch is the amount of sales it would have hade without the casuals hype. Or as the-pi-guy mentioned, use Gamecube numbers.