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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 05 September 2014
AnthonyW86 said:
Personally if you want to compare generations i would ignore the Wii since that number is heavily inflated by the casuals going for the motion control hype. It really doesn't tell you anything about the actual console gaming market.

Comparing PS3/360 to PS4/XOne this gen is doing well so far.

Why it sold is irrelevant. The fact is that it did sell. The only inflation is rebuying due to hardware issues and even that isn't tracked so it can't be ignored either.



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kljesta64 on 05 September 2014
bubblegamer said:
kljesta64 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Everything is going to beat the Wii U


nothing is going to beat Wii

PS4 will, just like it's PS2 and PS1 brethern did

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

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Carl on 05 September 2014
AnthonyW86 said:

It's not about casuals gamers, it's about the software. Games like Destiny are considered hardcore, games lik eJust Dance are casual. The first isn't even released on a Nintendo console or would sell very well, the last one does.

Even if Nintendo would release something as big as Wii Sports for Wii-U and it would sell 100M+ it doesn't influence the release or development of games like Destiny.


Why does a lack of a few games mean they shouldnt be counted?

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platformmaster918 said:

it was an anomaly and not the product of a normal gaming market.  It had an abnormal selling pattern and sold to a different audience than ANY of the current consoles are aimed at.  In other words those people are not part of the gaming market they're just people who happened to buy one game console one time.  Hell some of the grandmas might not even be with us anymore


And how does this make the Wii a lesser console to the PS3 or Xbox 360, when both Sony and Microsoft were scrambling to rush out competing products to the Wii Controller?



                            

bubblegamer on 05 September 2014
kljesta64 said:
bubblegamer said:
kljesta64 said:

nothing is going to beat Wii

PS4 will, just like it's PS2 and PS1 brethern did

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

Nah, Japan is quite tasteless with the same games over and over. PS1 and PS2 aren't off topic as they are Sony consoles just like PS4 is and there is a tradition at work here. As someone on this website you should have noticed this by now.



eva01beserk on 05 September 2014
AnthonyW86 said:
Carl2291 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Personally if you want to compare generations i would ignore the Wii since that number is heavily inflated by the casuals going for the motion control hype. It really doesn't tell you anything about the actual console gaming market.

Comparing PS3/360 to PS4/XOne this gen is doing well so far.


We should ignore the Wii because it was a gigantic success with the market it was aimed at. Yep.

Indeed it was a great succes in the casual gaming market, but not the ''hardcore'' gaming market. And apart from some of Nintendo's own offerings, only casual software sold well on it. For the big gaming franchises like GTA, Assassins Creed's, Destiny etc. it just doesn't matter if Nintendo's consoles sell 20m or 100m. Those games don't sell well on it anyway. The install base of their consoles just don't really tell anything about the state of the gaming industry, or if developers will be able to make back the budget of big AAA games.

That's why i think the comparison is about Playstation and Xbox. Nintendo's huge drop off in sold consoles pretty much effects Nintendo and Nintendo alone, to the hardcore gaming market and most developers it just doesn't matter much.

Bullshit response. Everyone knows that a lot of casuals bought the wii, but a lot of hardcore gamers did to. The only problem was that those hardcore gamers did not just have the wii, it was usually acompani by a ps3/360 or all 3. People where not going to buy the way more inferior version of a game for wii while they had their other hd console with the wii. But almost all the games exclusive for the wii, hardcore or casual, mainly hardcore, sold preety well. Everybondy know the wii was a great secondary console for hardcore gamers. Only casuals had it as a primary console, or poor people like me, wich I got a ps3 very late in the gen.



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Danman27 on 05 September 2014

Good thread. That's all I have to say...



bubblegamer on 05 September 2014
Danman27 said:
Good thread. That's all I have to say...

A man of few words. I can respect that.



tak13 on 05 September 2014
Slarvax said:
How did the 3DS beat the DS while having 1 holiday!?

....remember first year,fat ds...dslite skyrocketed the ds series...and is the main reason that ds dominates 3ds! Let me show you, the lt sales individually!fat ds 18.79m , ds dslite 93.86m, dsi/xl 41.35m(28.43m/12.92m)



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 05 September 2014
kljesta64 said:

20mil. first full year wont happen because of japan(they are the only ones having a brain right now) as for ps2,ps1 that is totally off topic.

YTD 5.6

x2 10.2 + 10.1 = 20.3 million 

so yeah it is possible

Don't know why you have to imply that buying a PS4 means your brainless, but I guess its because of this:



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exdeath on 05 September 2014

Wii doesn't count. It wasn't bought by gamers, but rather it was the latest trendy fad iDevice decorating the living rooms of non gamers.

Dat Xenoblade tho... Holy shit.

I suspect the real number for Wii sales as a game console and not a everybody has one fashion device can be deduced from sales numbers of games like Xenoblade Chronicles, Metroid Prime, Zelda, etc.