He's talking about the hardware. Both the basic PS4 and the bundle are above X1, which tells us PS4 is selling at least double as much.

Actually, if there's 2 SKUs, one above by five or six slots the Xbox One, and one a single slot below, probably a safe bet. =P Now, there are more Xbox One bundles to consider, so I don't believe the ratio for total units is necessarily 2:1, but considering the next closest Xbox SKU is in spot number 105, the PS4 is likely winning by a very, very, very healthy margin. Closer to 2:1 than, say, 1.5:1.

Its got X1 game at 5, PS4 bundle at 6 and PS4 game at 8 at the moment. From this you wouldn't know if the PS4 versions were selling the Xbox One version. X1 version could have 2 million sales in the hour, the bundle 1 million and game 500,000. (Obviously they are nowhere near that!)

Probable but you can't state the thing as a fact (not aiming that at you by the way just in general)

For some reason you're talking about Destiny the game, but he was talking about the PS4 and X1 consoles

We're talking hardware, not the Destiny game.

Ah my bad.

My bad, I read it wrong

Very true! ^_^ However, it is fun to theorize. :3

For example, the only thing we can really say for sure is that, at the moment, the PS4 is selling more than the Xbox One Kinectless model, and the PS4 Destiny bundle is selling more than the PS4 base model, and by extention even more than the Xbox One Kinectless model. So, if nothing else, those two SKUs together are selling a greater than double amount of the Xbox One Kinectless SKU.

The fact that the Destiny bundle is a solid six or seven slots above the other SKUs means the gap is pretty big. If it was closer, (like you said, only 1 or 100 units between, say, the Destiny bundle and the Xbox One,) we'd probably be seeing the PS4 and/or Xbox One topping the Destiny bundle frequently, from variations in sales, since no product is going to sell the exact same amount every hour. For the Destiny bundle to remain pretty much cemented above the Xbox One, by between four and seven slots on a regular basis, the gap has to be big enough so that any variation in hour-to-hour sales doesn't change who tops who.

Which brings us to the other Xbox One bundles. Forza was, as mentioned, at 105, Call of Duty at 116, and the Sunset Overdrive is at spot 280.

Sunset Overdrive, we can likely discount; anything past 200 is generally 'No Man's Land,' where the console scarcely moves any units whatsoever, getting bumped back up to the highest point of No Man's Land when it sells something. It's what happened with the Madden bundle, as even after it stopped selling at all, (i.e., ran out of stocks,) it kept above the Sunset Overdrive bundle for nearly a day. Just to reiterate, a SKU that was incapable of selling ANYTHING was registered as selling more than the Sunset Overdrive bundle, until the SO bundle sold a unit and catapaulted ahead of it on the charts.

So it really comes down to 'Are the Call of Duty bundle, and Forza bundle combined selling more than the gap between the Destiny bundle and Kinectless Xbox One?'

That's where the fun begins. =D

How much PS4 hardware sales can we expect first week?