Fusioncode said:
When did I ever say bribing journalists with sex was okay? I just haven't seen any legitimate proof that's what she did. |
Then I would lead with that, since that's the main allegation (as I understand it).
Fusioncode said:
When did I ever say bribing journalists with sex was okay? I just haven't seen any legitimate proof that's what she did. |
Then I would lead with that, since that's the main allegation (as I understand it).
| whiteknight101 said:
You already admitted that there is no proof whatsoever of quid-pro-quo, only conjecture, so what is the point of continuing a thread where you asked why "anyone would defend" Quinn? The answer is obvious. She's a nobody accused of a bunch of stuff for which there is little proof. The big question is why anyone is talking about her in the first place, and the answer is that it helps a bunch of bored teenagers be less bored. |
Right so all the other threads on reddit and TheEscapists and other forums are just clones of the /v/ and /pol/ posts, interesting theory you have but I am afraid it requires more than just pointing fingers.
So is the proof going to fall from the sky and give the internet the answer? Zoey is innocent until proven gulity and people are trying to find convincing enough evidence to prove she is gulity. And Zoey so far as done nothing but insult, hide, point fingers and destorying discussion about the possibility that yes she was sleeping with these guys to get ahead in the industry which questions her, does that to you sound like a completely innocent person? There is definitely more to this story. Oh and she's just a nobody right? She WAS a nobody, the media has her in their spotlight, articles written about her everyday, she is now the new postergirl for people mistreated by the sexist video game industry. Zoey Quinn is now SOMEBODY and I guarantee you this is not the last time you will hear from her.
Now I ask you, why do you defend Zoey Quinn? The fact that the only threads you have posted in here on VGC are about her is very interesting indeed. If you think she's a nobody, why do you care?
Kotaku, Zoe Quinn, SJW and most gaming media is the cancer killing video games but people think this is about her chaeting her boyfriend, if you think this is about that you are already brainwashed
Ignoring Zoe Quinn for a moment... Adam Orth absolutely deserved to be fired. Anyone with his position on customer restrictions should be wiped out of the industry. It's a very dangerous thing.
Leadified said:
So is the proof going to fall from the sky and give the internet the answer? Zoey is innocent until proven gulity and people are trying to find convincing enough evidence to prove she is gulity. And Zoey so far as done nothing but insult, hide, point fingers and destorying discussion about the possibility that yes she was sleeping with these guys to get ahead in the industry which questions her, does that to you sound like a completely innocent person? There is definitely more to this story. Oh and she's just a nobody right? She WAS a nobody, the media has her in their spotlight, articles written about her everyday, she is now the new postergirl for people mistreated by the sexist video game industry. Zoey Quinn is now SOMEBODY and I guarantee you this is not the last time you will hear from her. |
I don't give a sh*t what goes on at reddit and TheEscapists to be honest. 4chan and VGchartz are the only places I frequent who are caught up in the Quinn "controversy". Maybe this is a big deal on bodybuilding.com and somethingawful too, maybe it will have it's very own ytmnd page. Fact is that this started out with Quinn's betrayed boyfriend writing online that she fucked a Kotaku journalist behind her boyfriends back, AFTER the journalist had given her some publicity in a piece about indie developers. And then the journalist never wrote anything about her from that point on. (Note that journalists are perfectly free to fuck whoever they like, they just can't keep working with them once they've done it. So there is literally no proof of anything unethical taking place at all UNLESS someone can prove they fucked before he wrote about her. Which no one has been able to do)
That's it, that's the whole thing. That's what /pol/ took and got the ball rolling, and after two weeks of discussing this completely uninteresting no-name untalented indie developer, that's still all that is known about her supposed corruption of Video Game Journalism by fucking.
The only reason this person has e-fame now is because people like you give it to her.
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Now I ask you, why do you defend Zoey Quinn? The fact that the only threads you have posted in here on VGC are about her is very interesting indeed. If you think she's a nobody, why do you care? |
Did you check out my handle?
Kotaku has gone out and said that the sexual relationship began AFTER the journalist had covered her game. If that's true, this all just harassment, isn't it?
I can totally agree that this is something that needs to be looked at if any wrongdoing been going on.
BUT shouldn't we be just as critical, if not even more so, towards the joirnalists then? THEY were the ones accepting the bribe and gave positive coverage (if this is all true), yet VERY LITTLE criticism has been offered their way. Please explain THAT. Why should Zoe be the one to bare this burden alone?
I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!
Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.
| Euphoria14 said: Because having sex is normal and isn't a crime. |
But its extremely immoral and wrong to cheat on your boyfriend/girlfriend, and prostitution is illegal pretty much most places, and this is prostitution
| whiteknight101 said: I don't give a sh*t what goes on at reddit and TheEscapists to be honest. 4chan and VGchartz are the only places I frequent who are caught up in the Quinn "controversy". Maybe this is a big deal on bodybuilding.com and somethingawful too, maybe it will have it's very own ytmnd page. Fact is that this started out with Quinn's betrayed boyfriend writing online that she fucked a Kotaku journalist behind her boyfriends back, AFTER the journalist had given her some publicity in a piece about indie developers. And then the journalist never wrote anything about her from that point on. (Note that journalists are perfectly free to fuck whoever they like, they just can't keep working with them once they've done it. So there is literally no proof of anything unethical taking place at all UNLESS someone can prove they fucked before he wrote about her. Which no one has been able to do) That's it, that's the whole thing. That's what /pol/ took and got the ball rolling, and after two weeks of discussing this completely uninteresting no-name untalented indie developer, that's still all that is known about her supposed fucking corruption of Video Game Journalism. The only reason this person has e-fame now is because people like you give it to her.
Did you check out my handle? |
Yes people like me who care so much about the life of Zoey Quinn. If you quit being so defensive, you'll realise I have not given MY opinion on Zoey Quinn EXCEPT that I said I think there is more than meets the eye because of her actions. The reason I replied to you in the first place is because I found it interesting how you constantly defend Zoey and try to shut people up because they do not agree with you. Saying things that this discussion should not exist because there is no proof and there never will be any proof or claiming people are a bunch of bored teenagers and other things I covered in my prevous posts. Your attempt at censorship and finger pointing is why this discussion is here.
Check your handle? I saw you here in this thread and in the other Zoey Quinn thread and looking at your low post count I quickly checked your profile. Is there an issue with that or my question?
| DanneSandin said: Kotaku has gone out and said that the sexual relationship began AFTER the journalist had covered her game. If that's true, this all just harassment, isn't it? I can totally agree that this is something that needs to be looked at if any wrongdoing been going on. BUT shouldn't we be just as critical, if not even more so, towards the joirnalists then? THEY were the ones accepting the bribe and gave positive coverage (if this is all true), yet VERY LITTLE criticism has been offered their way. Please explain THAT. Why should Zoe be the one to bare this burden alone? |
Definitely, journalists sold their integrity for a bit of pleasure. But most gaming journalists lost their integrity ages ago, so the impact is less.
Most so called 'journalist' of the gaming industry operates as a marketing tool for the big companies. alot of corruption going on there.
Did u watch the vid? He definitely gives the journalists a bollocking. But the point here is that I, and my fellow other gamers are constantly labeled as women-haters, then the woman who claims to have so much integrity and is standing up for womens rights goes and fucks for money.
Kotaku, the site that in the past year has probably run over 50 racism/sexism/feminism topics, are one of the journalists telling me I am a sexist gamer then doing all this shit.
and somehow people like phil fish and others say Zoe is the victim?! If anything she commits rape to her boyfriend as outlined in one of the two videos, as sleeping with your boyfriend while they are unaware of an affair is classed as them not giving consent, thus rape.