4chan was censored...that just doesn't happen. Additionally, a copyright claim under Zoe Quinn's name was filed on this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Equc1QnQ9rw&list=UUxXUQuvoiIAlpM2osoAitjQ ) which is a reup of the original which was taken down on false pretenses.

While there is the testimony of the boyfriend (which has photographic evidence), it has been confirmed in the case of Nathan Grayson, who confirmed that there was a romantic relationship between them. Additionally, there are other things which point to her using her gender and playing the victim (http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx ), abusing her "power" as a visible woman in the industry to do whatever she wants (http://i.imgur.com/Gy2n50g.png ). Additionally, numerous people are attacking anyone who even speaks about it (like Total Biscuit), calling them mysogynists and whatnot for no good reason.

Theres a lot of sketchy stuff going on surrounding this, and while there are some people who have crossed the line, there is plenty of acceptable discussion going on here. People like you who try to silence this discussion (under the pretense of a few bad apples spoiling the whole bunch) are just making the situation worse.

It's not the world I want to see, it's the world revealed in reports like this one:

https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.igda.org/resource/collection/9215B88F-2AA3-4471-B44D-B5D58FF25DC7/IGDA_DSS_2014-Summary_Report.pdf

Look at the guy next to her. He looks like the type who never seen a "3D wifu "

The argument is so flawed...

I studied in a university where women were the vast majority in chemistry and psychology. Considering that men were the majority in all faculties a few decades ago should I then deduce that women formed a strong group that evacuated men from certain sections ?

It s ridiculous.

This thread is so rot

*sets challenge*

*challenge is obliterated in a single line*

annnnd you conveniently skirt around that and continue throwing out the same rhetoric.

My gender isn't a barrier, and I have the sense and presence of mind to know that if i were to be sexually harrased or looked down on in the workplace, it's a case of the individual being a douchbag, not the "norm"

If you search for reports of misconduct in the workplace you will invariably find reports from people discussing their situation, and there are numerous people that do, but that doesn't make it a compund issue, it just means, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PROFESSION, people can, and often will be, jerks.

Some of that may well be down to gender, I won't deny it, but people are too fast to tag it as sexual harrasment or sexism, without giving it much thought.

People are bullied in the workplace, in every walk of life, every profession, though name calling, mental and physical abuse, and in order to achieve that goal, the abuser will resort to whatever tactic produces the strongest result, if theyre reffered to in a racial slur, or a sexist slur, it doesn't inherantly mean that the person saying it is actually racist, or sexist - its just that they're douchebags and theyre using whatever gets the biggest rise out of the victim.

There has been somewhat of an explosion of reports of "sexist attitudes and behaviour in the workplace", does that mean that this generation of people are somehow MORE sexist than the last? not at all - it just means that when you have large, widespread movements that are so far reaching and blindly supported, with barely any research done into accusations, you end up with a generation, taught by society at large that "he touched my shoulders, thats pretty much rape", or "he called me bitch, and he might not have been joking, what a sexist pig" are not only encouraged but actively supported.

The actual reality behind it is that people of all ages, races and genders, are victimized in the workplace, each in slightly to very different ways but the underlying cause is simply people being douchebags. That doesn't mean sexism, sexual assault or rape doesnt happen, not even close, it just means that if a particular group is given a voice and encouraged to speak up, they will, while everyone else remains quiet.

When I was younger, an intern, fresh out of university was working at our tokyo studio, he was treated like utter shit by the other, senior staff, at work parties and gatherings he would be belittled and shamed for his weight, made fun of and teased - this trend extended beyond the douchbaggery of a few senior guys and spread, across the entire department to a point where the women of the office would drop disgusting comments to him themselves, and it became almost an office-wide trend to mess with him

One day, during a work party, they forced him to drink really strong sake, all night, then when he was borderline comatose from intoxication they removed every items of clothing he had and got various women staff to post next to him for pictures, he was then taken outside and the police found him the next morning, covered in his own vomit and badly hungover, completely naked and tied to a traffic signal.

After trying to brave the office for an additional week he quit, I heard that not long after that he had commited suicide.

People are abused at work, at home, just about everywhere, focusing on victims based on a particular gender or race is the wrong approach, it will never resolve the root cause of the abuse, because sexism for the most part ISN'T the root cause, it's a tool used in practicing the root cause, and that root cause is people (and i say people, because it can practically be anyone) not having enough morality and decency to treat their fellow humans with respect or a semblance of humanity.

If you use binoculars to focus on a particular subject, you see that subject in a much larger frame, but at a cost of losing sight of the things happening around it, and more often than not, the context of the frame itself . Let that one sink in a little before you continue.

To add to the above post. This shows the suicide rate in Japan by gender. If life was so easy for men, why would so much more men end their lives then women. http://www.who.int/mental_health/media/japa.pdf And this problem is not unique to Japan in this issue.

Challenge met indeed. Thanks for your perspective.

How does one get a larger perspective on the issue, other than looking at statistics and surveys? And to what do you ascribe the doubling of the female game devs workforce in the last five years if not a change in attitude and culture of studios?

If you make a point of publicising something, it attracts those that would otherwise not have been, it's like a store sale - if you mark down the prices with no fanfare, other than word of mouth it has little impact - if your sale is part of a larger campaign you draw in people that would never have come to your store were it not for that.

We have interns, right now, in work who are female, and they have the attitude that theyre "here to level the playing field and show the world what women developers can do", meanwhile, the other 14 or so women who have, to put it in a trendy way "been female developers before being a female developer was cool", just roll their eyes and get on with it.

If you want a larger perspective, close down the browser tabs full of statics and surveys and actually talk to level headed and grounded developers about their female staff, or directly with those female staff, if you choose only to read whats in the public eye, you limit yourself to contraversy.

Think of it like a console launch, do you think the media focus on the millions of happy users, or the few thousand who have hardware defects?, hindsight has shown us that the vocal minority get the attention, because that's where the money and fame is.

A lot of the people who spearhead major social campaigns end up guilty of using the cause as a springboard for their own personal interests/success, just like the media that covers them use the topics to generate revenue.

While this is almost a word for word comment I read on another forum I frequent, there's no way it'll fly on VGC.