But 3rd Party Multiplats! lol

People's basis that they wont sell Xbox hardware is based on cross gen releases which really shouldn't have an effect on next gen hardware and hasn't bar watchdogs (58% PS4, 27% Xbox One). Did the xbox360 and PS3 sell 80m because of PS2 and Xbox1 titles? Our only reference says that big generation exclusive software sells hardware respective to that generation even if one console is favoured more then the other.

Please someone explain to me why this won't apply this time round. Its not like the Xbox Doesn't have exclusives coming up and both systems are similarly priced, its simply ilogical to think everyone is automatically gonna side with Playstation. Especially when none of their IPs don't as much power as Halo in the North America. It will only take a small increase for Xbox to outpace Wii U. The reason why we haven't seen this yet is because not a single big 3rd party next gen exclusive has been release in the 9months since the PS4/XO Launch, but there are dozens on the way. (Assassins Creed Unity, Witcher 3, Evolve, Batman Arkham Knight in the next 6months). Infact most releases in 2015 are next exclusives, which why the PS4 will probably sell 15m-20m  and the Xbox will sell at least half of that.

If you've seen 2015 line up of games, including Xbox Exclusives you really have no reason to believe Xbox Sales will be down YOY which is what your forecast predicts.

Also the effect of Pikmin, Donkey Kong, Wonderful 101 and Sonic on wii U sales in the last 9months, tells you how valuable Nintendo's exclusives are when they are not Mario, Zelda or Pokemon. 

both are bold but he has a point(so does toast)

mario kart and smash are huge evergreens and sell really well during the holidays(smash will be debuting so thatll be fun) and if they ressurect the mario kart bundle and do a smash one O_O thatll be fun XD

now since xbox one seems like 2015 will be better(hopefully) it should get a huge lead(but not like 10 million 5 million at tops)

Listen to yourself speak. Read it before you hit submit.  No company goes into the market knowing they are going to flop and need to do a massive pricecut in the future that will leave them in the red. You are making no sense. The wii u miscalculated and released to overpriced. its a mistake they are paying for rifht now it was not planed. they expected to be the only ones out and get anearly lead put people where smart and said $350 for only this? no thank you. The same happened to the x1. If what you said was true, then the moment they unbundled kicnect they could have droped the price at least $50 since they were loosing sales 3:1 and doing the worse year in xbox history.

I dont know about any of those releases but does it matter? Sony still pushed out 3 times more exclusives then MS last gen, so delay or not they still served more in their plate every time. And if sony goes bankrup, PS is to profitable to be bought. They would remain an independent company that only makes games.

And if M$ has so much cash, why do they need to overprice their console in anticipation of future loses? They could just eat the loses and sell tons of hardware and make it back in software, they would not havebeen sooutsold, they would not havelost third party favoritsm and they would definatly not have lost the US. You make no sense. Really think before you speak.

Cros gen seems to only be afecting the x1 aparantly since the ps4 is flying of shelves.  I highly doubt the x1 will sell a third of the ps4's numbers.

I know multyplats are very important to allconsoles. But if the ps4 next year has almost all the games the x1 has except for 3, but the ps4 still has like 10 the x1 does not, people will take notice and keep choossing the ps4. You might think that releasing a bunch of little games wont help but they appeal to somebody.

Another thing that you are probably tired of hearing is that the more ps4 sells, the more likely their friends of the owners will get a ps4 to play together and since a lot of them are 360 owners that jumped ships, well thats not going to be good for x1.

Also tired of hearing the ps4's hardware supiriority so the x1 should not cost the same as the ps4. O and all 3 will get a pricecut next year so that will not influence anyone to choose the x1.

Nintendo might not be selling right now due to the hypetrain the ps4 vs x1 war has had for over ayear. Any game nintendo released got overshodowed by everything else and people where waiting for the next big thing and fighting the console war and just ignored nintendo. But all that is over now and the hype is gone and nintendo went back into the light as x1 crashed and burned after loosing the war. Another thing is that unlike xbox games that sell all they are going to sell in the first month, nintendo games sell for years with every new console purchase so all those big hitters will come back in the holidays and theoff season next year.

The lack of next gen exclusives is visibly effecting the PS4, but people can't see it becuase they are just caught up comparing it to the XO. PS4 is obviously the prefered platform, so will always have a higher baseline then Xbox. The Xbox is falling a tiny bit down in sales as a system with no exclusives and only cross gen titles should, similar to the Wii U in the same period last year (22k), but obviously the XBox is doing alot better (50k). The key point though is that its baseline has actually remained near where it was after the holiday hype (60k in feb). Proportionally the PS4 and Xbox One have fallen in sales by a similar amount, the pS4 was pushing 150k a week in feb (excluding Japanese sales), its now pushing 110k (ignoring TLOU Remaster Launch).

Do you see what I'm getting at? Im not saying that the Xbox will outsell the PS4 but that 3rd party releases will effect both systems proportionally and theres not yet any evidence to say otherwise. Watchdogs increased a higher percentage of PS4 sales but it was heavily marketed with the PS4, alongside having exclusive content and a bundle. It still had a effect on Xbox One sales. Looking at all other 3rd party releases (Tomb Raide, Thief, Wolfenstein) both systems hardware actually responded very similar to each other in terms of their % increase/fall. 

Theif: XO -13%, PS4 -17%
Tomb Raider: XO +5%, PS4 +5%
Wolfenstein: XO +1%, PS4 -1%

Looking at the above, Its only logical that both systems will increase by a much higher percentage once next gen only games are released, obviously occasssions where the specific games are bundled with should see a higher percentage increase in sales for the hardware its bundled with. Now this isn't proof that the Xbox will outsell the Wii U, but with only 10k between their baselines, its hard to imagine that it won't with all the big upcoming 3rd party releases vs 1 big Wii U holiday release which doesn't even have a release date yet. (Smash Bros)

You do realise that wii u has more titles coming? I think bayonetta will do wonders. And even if you think the games coming are not big, they are exclusive to the wii u wich are insentives to get the console. All those games coming to the xbox are not exclusive, so if somebody wants to play those they will get the best console at the same price, so not the x1. Those games will only help the people who already want the x1 for its exclusives wich are very few.