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Is Moneyhatting a good business practice?

Yes 25 19.53%
 
No 103 80.47%
 
Total:128
plip.plop said:
So how would people feel If MS decided instead to buy up studios instead of courting third party companies to make games for them or to release them as timed exclusives? There by ending all debates about games being timed, to: The ONLY place to play these (insert IP, after IP)?

I do agree that they need to create more original IP's.

Only good can come from a practice like this. More jobs provided for the industry. 3rd Parties will release their games as usualy on the consoles they want. While MS will be making games for themselves and making them to appeal to their market, creating new IPs and giving the new teams the ability for creative input as well. MS not relying on 3rd parties is good because it means they have value in the studios and IPs.

If MS stop making consoles, they have something to fall back on, studios to make games and money can be made that way too.



Hmm, pie.

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Acting as if Microsoft hasn't announced a nice amount of exclusives.



Mad55 said:
Acting as if Microsoft hasn't announced a nice amount of exclusives.

The article wasn't saying that and most people on this thread haven't said that (although many have commented on MS' lack of quality first party output).

It simply pointed out that money being spent on securing a "timed" exclusive from a third party has numerous caveats including negative PR and the simple fact that the money could be spent on funding internal development of another title which MS would be able to wholly own and control.



fighter said:
who is Rob Fahey ?

One of the better writers at GamesIndustry.biz



The Fury said:
plip.plop said:
So how would people feel If MS decided instead to buy up studios instead of courting third party companies to make games for them or to release them as timed exclusives? There by ending all debates about games being timed, to: The ONLY place to play these (insert IP, after IP)?

I do agree that they need to create more original IP's.

Only good can come from a practice like this. More jobs provided for the industry. 3rd Parties will release their games as usualy on the consoles they want. While MS will be making games for themselves and making them to appeal to their market, creating new IPs and giving the new teams the ability for creative input as well. MS not relying on 3rd parties is good because it means they have value in the studios and IPs.

If MS stop making consoles, they have something to fall back on, studios to make games and money can be made that way too.

True, people should also keep an eye on warner bros studios (batman and dying light). Those guys have seen the light and seem to be investing heavily in game development.



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Intrinsic said:

True, people should also keep an eye on warner bros studios (batman and dying light). Those guys have seen the light and seem to be investing heavily in game development.

And Mortal Kombat....and Lego, and Lord of the Rings. WB games have a lot going for them. Good IPs, the DC universe to fall back on (even if only 1 good DC game has come out in years... 1 series. They however are building a good range of studios working on popular and known franchises. Sure they are movie franchises and comics but they do have some new IPs.

Disney should take note, ending the Activision contract for Marvel Games and pretty much obliterating LucasArts is not a way to build on a wild range of franchises and a huge history of games. There are as far as I know, no Star Wars games in development. No Marvel games in development. A very sad fact.



Hmm, pie.

prinz_valium said:
Teeqoz said:
prinz_valium said:

sure. if u want to sell or generate profit, u have to invest money

and building up new studios and/or ips, take years of development and huge rsiks.
that would not benefit ms right now


neither did this practice benefit ALL gamers.
it just benefits the games who are on the right side... (or on both)

 

 

so good as a business practice

but bad, if u want to judge it by moral aspects


It doesn't benefit anyone. Xbox One gamers were getting the game rgeardless, but MS paid so that PS and PC gamers wont get it (whether it's timed or not, I really don't know anymore).

it's not better for anyone, it's just bad for someone.


so it doenst benefit ms, that some tr fans would buy an xbox so they can play that game?

i doesnt benefit ms if they sell more units of software because of that times exclusive deal and get more roayalties?

and i doenst benefit if ms adds value to theire console compared to its competitors?

if both have the game, it would be a tie. in this case u get "more"

 

as example. u have 100 buck. every one else has 100, too.

every one exept u has to give away 50.

u dont have more money after that, but ur the ritchest guy now. does it benift u or not, regardless u would have that 100 bucks anyway?

ofc it does. just not in a "good" way.


You said "it doesn't benefit ALL gamers . It just benefits the gamers that are on the right side (or both)." Your post clearly says it's beneficial for some gamers, when in reality, it doesn't give anything to xbox owners, it only takes things away from PS owners.



Scoobes said:
Mad55 said:
Acting as if Microsoft hasn't announced a nice amount of exclusives.

The article wasn't saying that and most people on this thread haven't said that (although many have commented on MS' lack of quality first party output).

It simply pointed out that money being spent on securing a "timed" exclusive from a third party has numerous caveats including negative PR and the simple fact that the money could be spent on funding internal development of another title which MS would be able to wholly own and control.

Microsoft have a lot of first party studios. Maybe they arent using all of them right, but they have plenty. In general the article could be aplied to sony or Nintendo as well as they have done the exact same thing. 



Mad55 said:
Scoobes said:

The article wasn't saying that and most people on this thread haven't said that (although many have commented on MS' lack of quality first party output).

It simply pointed out that money being spent on securing a "timed" exclusive from a third party has numerous caveats including negative PR and the simple fact that the money could be spent on funding internal development of another title which MS would be able to wholly own and control.

Microsoft have a lot of first party studios. Maybe they arent using all of them right, but they have plenty. In general the article could be aplied to sony or Nintendo as well as they have done the exact same thing. 

That doesn't mean they can't invest in those studios more, especially with the money they spent on securing short-term exclusivity.

And the article can't really be applied to Sony or Nintendo anymore. What makes this case rather unique is that

1. Tomb Raider is an established franchise that has a rather large (60-80%) fanbase already on PS/PC.

2. Third-party deals are becoming too expensive (the amount of lost revenue from initial sale and potential DLC sales is simply too big, especially if your console isn't leading in sales/momentum) to the point where truly securing big name exclusives would cost more than the development of a new AAA title. This is the first time in a long-time that any of the big three have splashed out to completely secure a full exclusive.

3. This is a full game, not just DLC

Now maybe Rob Fahey could write an article about how stupid paying for exclusive DLC or other platform specific content is for the three console manufacturers (it wouldn't surprise me if he has already), and that would also be equally valid. But this situation is specifically different for the three points above. Point 1 and 3 leads to annoying the fanbase of the franchise (negative PR) whilst point 2 suggests the sheer amount of investment MS would have to make in this could have been spent elsewhere, perhaps even helping to build MS' next Halo/Gears level IP.

 



Mad55 said:

Microsoft have a lot of first party studios. Maybe they arent using all of them right, but they have plenty. In general the article could be aplied to sony or Nintendo as well as they have done the exact same thing. 


Check the link.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125163689&postcount=7090