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Is Moneyhatting a good business practice?

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binary solo on 15 August 2014

What the hell? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=188399&page=1#2

Slightly different take, but along the same lines. But I say moneyhatting, especially existing franchises has never really proven itself to be a reliably winning strategy.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 August 2014
Mr_No said:
We'll have to wait and see if the heavy investment will work. Because facing Uncharted on the holiday season will be a difficult feat.


MS has been money hatting since the gen began and it hasn't worked yet. The moneyhat wont work because most PS gamers will be buying Uncharted when Rise of the Tomb Raider comes out. Most will wait, but only a few will get the Xbone for Tomb Raider if they cannot wait.



forevercloud3000 on 15 August 2014
Mr_No said:
We'll have to wait and see if the heavy investment will work. Because facing Uncharted on the holiday season will be a difficult feat.

I can get behind SE wanting to evade Uncharted in the same holiday. Yet I think it might have been better to delay the game altogether. PS4 has most sales in US as well and US is XBO's most dominant territory. Most gamers will be eyin Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 that holiday, there will be little room for a game like Tomb Raider.



      

      

      

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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 August 2014
forevercloud3000 said:
Mr_No said:
We'll have to wait and see if the heavy investment will work. Because facing Uncharted on the holiday season will be a difficult feat.

I can get behind SE wanting to evade Uncharted in the same holiday. Yet I think it might have been better to delay the game altogether. PS4 has most sales in US as well and US is XBO's most dominant territory. Most gamers will be eyin Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 that holiday, there will be little room for a game like Tomb Raider.


Even Xbox gamers will ignore Tomb Raider for Halo. 



forevercloud3000 on 15 August 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Mr_No said:
We'll have to wait and see if the heavy investment will work. Because facing Uncharted on the holiday season will be a difficult feat.

I can get behind SE wanting to evade Uncharted in the same holiday. Yet I think it might have been better to delay the game altogether. PS4 has most sales in US as well and US is XBO's most dominant territory. Most gamers will be eyin Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 that holiday, there will be little room for a game like Tomb Raider.


Even Xbox gamers will ignore Tomb Raider for Halo. 

Tomb Raider at this day and age feels like a Spring/Summer Blockbuster title, that can flourish when not overshadowed by much bigger IPs.



      

      

      

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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 August 2014
forevercloud3000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
forevercloud3000 said:

 


Even Xbox gamers will ignore Tomb Raider for Halo. 

Tomb Raider at this day and age feels like a Spring/Summer Blockbuster title, that can flourish when not overshadowed by much bigger IPs.


Its not just that. Its the worst time to be exclusive to one console when its not a console seller. The game needed five platforms to get to the sales Uncharted and Halo are used to (or more) on one console.



BMaker11 on 15 August 2014

The checkbook didn't stop the [always more expensive than Xbox 360] PS3 from closing the gap and surpassing the Xbox. It didn't stop the PS3 from generating the better exclusives between the two (maybe even best overall, Wii included).

Now that Xbox has none of the advantages it had last gen and is actually at many disadvantages, the checkbook is gonna do diddly squat for the XBone.



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 August 2014
BMaker11 said:

The checkbook didn't stop the [always more expensive that Xbox 360] PS3 from closing the gap and surpassing the Xbox. It didn't stop the PS3 from generating the better exclusives between the two (maybe even best overall, Wii included).

Now that Xbox has none of the advantages it had last gen and is actually at many disadvantages, the checkbook is gonna do diddly squat for the XBone.


Exactly. MS risked the integrity of the Xbox 360 and moneyhatted for like three years straight just to take fans away from Sony at the beginning of last gen. They were winning then. They are losing and they are spending even more money. When will they learn that having deep pockets is no substitute for having actual talent?



eva01beserk on 15 August 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
forevercloud3000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Even Xbox gamers will ignore Tomb Raider for Halo. 

Tomb Raider at this day and age feels like a Spring/Summer Blockbuster title, that can flourish when not overshadowed by much bigger IPs.


Its not just that. Its the worst time to be exclusive to one console when its not a console seller. The game needed five platforms to get to the sales Uncharted and Halo are used to (or more) on one console.

For MS to buy a console seller even timed now that they are half the installbase as sony, it would cost them far to much. Inmagine if Tomb Raider cost them like $100m, a game that would move consoles like The Division would no doubt cost them at least $300m. Money that could go into making multiple games of your own.

Numbers are all just examples. I have no freaking clue what anything cost.



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tm on 15 August 2014
forevercloud3000 said:
Mr_No said:
We'll have to wait and see if the heavy investment will work. Because facing Uncharted on the holiday season will be a difficult feat.

I can get behind SE wanting to evade Uncharted in the same holiday. Yet I think it might have been better to delay the game altogether. PS4 has most sales in US as well and US is XBO's most dominant territory. Most gamers will be eyin Uncharted 4 and Halo 5 that holiday, there will be little room for a game like Tomb Raider.

This is what I was thinking. Let's also not forget the usual suspects in annual CoD, Assassin's Creed, Sports games, knowing EA a Battlefield even with Hardline early in the year. The Division could be showing it's face along with probably a handful of other big titles.

With U4 and Halo5 as well, like you said, they should have just ducked out of that release season. Hell, didn't the first come out in spring and do well for itself, why not stick with what worked for you.