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Are you against remastered games?

Yes 10 10.42%
 
No 45 46.88%
 
Hell Yes 2 2.08%
 
Hell No 30 31.25%
 
nnoooo-yes 2 2.08%
 
yeeees-no 5 5.21%
 
Total:94
Headshot on 11 August 2014

IMO there is nothing wrong with both, TLOU remastered is basically a GOTY edition and is worth the money. EA access gives you access to loads of games and 10 percent off digital downloads for a reasonable price.



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SWORDF1SH on 11 August 2014
jlmurph2 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
jlmurph2 said:


Yeah honestly this should mean that some Sony fans would understand why we like EA Access. Yet its hated by most here.

TLOU:R is a cash grab that works but it seems like guys make more defense threads about it than the haters do offense ones. It gets annoying.

You do realise that remasters have been coming to the 360 and PS3 for a long time now. And now they are coming to the X1 and PS4. It's not really about MS vrs Sony fanboys. Please don't make it into that.

My post has nothing to with MS fans vs Sony fans. It has to do with the people who constantly say TLOUR is bashed when they themselves are the ones bringing up the topic. 

I know that remasters have come to 360 and PS3. That doesn't stop TLOUR from being a cash grab. I honestly dont care that it is because I would have bought it myself if I had a PS4. Stop making it sound like the game is being demolished in the forums when its not.

Anyway. Instead of playing the victim. Do you think Remastered gives gamers choice? If yes then why are you even arguing? The post is about remasters in general but TLOU:R is used a the example because it's the most recent and seems to have taken a lot of flak. Therefore it's a great example to use



Ninsect on 11 August 2014
starcraft said:
There is a hell of a lote more hate for EA Access.

Equally, people's primary argument against the products are fundamentally different.

One is about value (TLOU:D being expensive, originally full price), the other is about access (the idea that EA is unlikely to continue adding new titles to the vault, or may start removing them). Not a relevant comparison at all.

And if you insist on making it, it won end well. TLOU is fantastic. It also cost nearly double a year of EA Access...

Not so sure about that. There have been several (really a LOT) of anti-TLoU remaster threads. I want to know how you measure it. I could count the threads and show you easily that you're wrong but I'll let you prove your claim.

EA Access arguments are really about value too though. We're discussing $30 a year here so of course people will talk about if it's worth it or not.



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Ninsect on 11 August 2014
ironmanDX said:
Multiple "older" games for nearly half the price of a year old port?

How is this even remotely comparable?

One consists of a collection of mediocre to good EA games with moments left until EA close their servers and the other is the most acclaimed game of all-time, remastered for PS4 @1080p60FPS. I know, it's not exactly fair.



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BMaker11 on 11 August 2014
vkaraujo said:
1-EA is more hatted than TLoU:R

2-Part of the "feeling of hate" comes from too many defensive TLoU:R topics being created.

3-There is indeed some hate, some from people that can't play the game.

4-There is a real reason for some hate, since between I:SS and Drive Club, there is only one big game, that many of this early adopters already played. This hate is not against TLoU:R, but against SONY. Some of that is reflecting over the game though.

I dunno.....EA is [money]hatted by MS. TLoU:R was [money]hatted by Sony. We don't know which one was hatted more. But because TLOU was a big budget game, I personally think it was hatted more than a contract dealing.

 

 

 I know it was a typo



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SWORDF1SH on 11 August 2014
starcraft said:
SWORDF1SH said:


Price isn't an issue here. If you want to compare EA Access with price then compare Apples with Apples. Compare EA Access with Game with Gold and PS Plus. That's it's direct competition.

With that logic you can say that any new game released is higher than an EA Access sub. What's the point?

The point I'm making is how can one be slated but the other defended by saying it gives gamers choice.

Well then as others have pointed out, on VGC there is no equating them. EA Access has copped far more flak on these forums than TLOU:R. Maybe try a different forum, where perhaps the balance is different?

I don't know.


Really?!? I see a lot of people defending EA Access by saying it gives gamers choice but also a lot of people slating TLOU:R (of course there are people doing the opposite, ratios, I don't know). I'm just bringing in a different POV on things.  Also like stated in the OP, it's more about remasters in general while using TLOU:R as the main example because it the most recent and one that seems to taken more flak than ones before it.

If you are for remasters then why are you arguing. If not, please explain why. Also if you are one of these people that says EA access give you choice, why doesn't this apply for Remastered games. We really do not need somebody to point out "bu bu bu but wees get more flak blah blah blah". Contribute to the debate, give us your opinion. Having a debate is fine, having your own opinion is fine, locking horns over opinions is fine.



vkaraujo on 11 August 2014
BMaker11 said:
vkaraujo said:
1-EA is more hatted than TLoU:R

2-Part of the "feeling of hate" comes from too many defensive TLoU:R topics being created.

3-There is indeed some hate, some from people that can't play the game.

4-There is a real reason for some hate, since between I:SS and Drive Club, there is only one big game, that many of this early adopters already played. This hate is not against TLoU:R, but against SONY. Some of that is reflecting over the game though.

I dunno.....EA is [money]hatted by MS. TLoU:R was [money]hatted by Sony. We don't know which one was hatted more. But because TLOU was a big budget game, I personally think it was hatted more than a contract dealing.

 

 

 I know it was a typo

=P

Corrected. Thank You.



SWORDF1SH on 11 August 2014
ironmanDX said:
Multiple "older" games for nearly half the price of a year old port?

How is this even remotely comparable?


On Amazon TLOU - PS3 is $34. On PS4 its $50 and comes with the Left behind DLC which you have to pay an extra $15 for on the PS3.

Total for TLOU Plus DLC - PS3 $49, PS4 $50.

So you pay an extra $1 for the PS4 version

TLOU price comparison - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the%20last%20of%20us&sprefix=the+la%2Caps&ajr=0

Left Behind DLC - http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=the%20last%20of%20us&sprefix=the+la%2Caps



jlmurph2 on 11 August 2014
SWORDF1SH said:
jlmurph2 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
jlmurph2 said:


Yeah honestly this should mean that some Sony fans would understand why we like EA Access. Yet its hated by most here.

TLOU:R is a cash grab that works but it seems like guys make more defense threads about it than the haters do offense ones. It gets annoying.

You do realise that remasters have been coming to the 360 and PS3 for a long time now. And now they are coming to the X1 and PS4. It's not really about MS vrs Sony fanboys. Please don't make it into that.

My post has nothing to with MS fans vs Sony fans. It has to do with the people who constantly say TLOUR is bashed when they themselves are the ones bringing up the topic. 

I know that remasters have come to 360 and PS3. That doesn't stop TLOUR from being a cash grab. I honestly dont care that it is because I would have bought it myself if I had a PS4. Stop making it sound like the game is being demolished in the forums when its not.

Anyway. Instead of playing the victim. Do you think Remastered gives gamers choice? If yes then why are you even arguing? The post is about remasters in general but TLOU:R is used a the example because it's the most recent and seems to have taken a lot of flak. Therefore it's a great example to use

@bolded not only MS fans like the service. 

 

Your argument of choice is different from what other people have said about EA access. The reason it's brought up is because Sony made the choice for their fans about the service and bashed it instead of letting fans choose themselves. TLOUR is a choice of buying it, same with DLC, microtransactions, consoles or just about anything in a store. The 2 terms of"choice are not the same because with one there was no choice. 



SWORDF1SH on 11 August 2014
jlmurph2 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
jlmurph2 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
jlmurph2 said:


Yeah honestly this should mean that some Sony fans would understand why we like EA Access. Yet its hated by most here.

TLOU:R is a cash grab that works but it seems like guys make more defense threads about it than the haters do offense ones. It gets annoying.

You do realise that remasters have been coming to the 360 and PS3 for a long time now. And now they are coming to the X1 and PS4. It's not really about MS vrs Sony fanboys. Please don't make it into that.

My post has nothing to with MS fans vs Sony fans. It has to do with the people who constantly say TLOUR is bashed when they themselves are the ones bringing up the topic. 

I know that remasters have come to 360 and PS3. That doesn't stop TLOUR from being a cash grab. I honestly dont care that it is because I would have bought it myself if I had a PS4. Stop making it sound like the game is being demolished in the forums when its not.

Anyway. Instead of playing the victim. Do you think Remastered gives gamers choice? If yes then why are you even arguing? The post is about remasters in general but TLOU:R is used a the example because it's the most recent and seems to have taken a lot of flak. Therefore it's a great example to use

@bolded not only MS fans like the service. 

 

Your argument of choice is different from what other people have said about EA access. The reason it's brought up is because Sony made the choice for their fans about the service and bashed it instead of letting fans choose themselves. TLOUR is a choice of buying it, same with DLC, microtransactions, consoles or just about anything in a store. The 2 terms of"choice are not the same because with one there was no choice. 

"Sony fans would understand why we like EA Access."

Judging by the fact that EA Access is X1 exclusive and you use the term 'we', you are insinuating that comment is on behalf of MS fans.

But the thread isn't anti EA Access anyway, it isn't even pro EA access. It's a pro 'Remastered' thread. Show me where I said anything bad about EA Access. Maybe you should practice what you preach and stop defending EA Access when nobody is attacking it.