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Is Bayoneta 2 a system seller?

Yes 206 43.46%
 
No 181 38.19%
 
Are you kidding? 86 18.14%
 
Total:473

I don't know about it being a system seller, that's probably the least of Platinum or Nintendo's problems.

What is far more important is the game being a "commercial success" to warrant its release.

This is more of a concern to many Nintendo fans than it being a so-called system seller.

If it doesn't sell a single Wii U but reaches over a 1m of the current user base that would be an outstanding result.
A solid library that can bring sales over a period of time is just as important as a game that does it in a day.

The game does need a bit more exposure but mass advertising is not a recipe for success. If that was the case then Kinect Sports on XBone would have sold a trillion in the UK.



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Not a system seller, but yet another great addition to the ever growing Wii U library. If anything it will help to make the system more appealing to people still on the fence about Wii U and its library of games.



zippy said:
Not a system seller, but yet another great addition to the ever growing Wii U library. If anything it will help to make the system more appealing to people still on the fence about Wii U and its library of games.

What people keep forgetting is that is hard to pick up a system for one game and most games dont do that for you, But add bayonetta 1+2, hyrule warriors, smash brothers, mario kart and all the othrs toguether that are coming exclusively to wii u and that becomes a huge reason to get the console.



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mii-gamer said:

Bayonetta 2 can sell millions of wii u's, Nintendo only needs to advertise that ass

 

But knowing nintendo they'd probably screw up

I could see this advertised by Sony Japan, but not even on GoW they advertised it in the West... so chances of Nintendo family console doing it is nill.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Aielyn said:
DonFerrari said:

Every time I see people throwing out Bayoneta 2 as a system seller for WiiU I get confused...

If bayoneta 1 (a good game as far as I know) flopped hard on two platforms that embrace third parties and get a lot of them outselling 1st parties... how do they expect the sequel to really boost WiiU when most 3rd parties perform bad (and absolutely horrible when compared to 1st parties)? If even most Ninty top rated games have a hard time boosting WiiU what hope is there for Bayoneta?

For me this is another case of hyping because of being exclusive to platform of choice like Wonderfull 101 (it was really hyped to great sells, but flopped hard) than a real chance of blockbuster.

What do you think?

A combination of the following:

1. Exclusivity + Sequel. With the original selling about 2 million between the two versions, if a reasonable fraction were to want the new game, they'd have to get a Wii U for it (there's no alternative option available to them). This is different from the original game itself, which was an untested franchise and available on two different systems (thus the game could not help a person choose between PS3 and 360).

2. First-party. Nintendo is funding development of this title, and is allowing their IP to be featured as special content within it. Nintendo is therefore likely to provide a marketing push that they are much less likely to do for third-party titles.

3. Genre availability/timing. For this, I'm referring to the fact that fans of the general action-style game will be able to get both Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2. While the two games have notable differences, the fundamental appeal of both games is there. As such, the appeal of the two games together will boost the benefit of each.

4. Fresh market. Wii U hasn't really appealed to the kinds of people who are likely to want games like Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta before. Therefore, fans of those styles of games would have had little reason to pick up a Wii U before, but will now. This is especially true of Bayonetta, which doesn't exactly match the more "family friendly" styling of most Wii U titles.

5. Value. Not only is Bayonetta 2 being released, but Bayonetta 1 is being included, with improved graphics and added content.

Note that nobody is predicting a blockbuster. There's a difference between "blockbuster" and "system seller". If Bayonetta 2 manages to sell 1 million copies, and half of those are to new Wii U purchasers, then that's 500,000 Wii Us that were sold by Bayonetta 2.

I was agreeing to you up to the conclusion, would just add that we can't measure how much it would add to WiiU.

But to expect a 1M sells that bring a 500k boost to WiiU is somewhat crazy (because that would be more than a small boost), even TitanFall/Infamous have hardly brought 500k new console sells to their side while one being GOTG and Infamous being the best 1st party exclusive for PS4 so far.

And I won't name no one or would go search for them... but we know that there are some people that say it will be a blockbuster, now if they are pretending, overhyping or believe this I can't be sure.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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it will flop hard.



Well we'll see a subtle boost in Japan for sure and also with Hyrule Warriors as for the West software might be high the first 2-3 weeks but not much for hardware. I think we'll still see numbers 80-100k worldwide



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who's saying Bayonetta 2 will be a system seller? It wont do to bad I think.



TW101 was hyped for great sales?



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