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bananaking21 said:
PS4 undertracked by around 70k.
XB1 over tracked by 20k
PS3 over tracked by a whoopping 300k
Xb360 over trackked by a massive 1 million.

300K on a LTD of 4.2M is not whopping (whooping is a different word), it's only a 7% error.

OTOH 1 million overtrack on a LTD of 2.1M is massive, that's a 50% error.

If US is overtracked for Xb360 (as apparently LTD numbers from NPD indicates) and so is Germany by a massive amount, where is the monumental undertracking that LTD shipments of 360 would suggest? I think most people would say that VGC's global LTD for 360 is about right or slightly low. But it looks like individual country LTDs are way off and all over the place. But that some are massively under while others are massively over seems to balance things out globally.

And wow Xbox brand going from precisely 2:1 in PS3's favour to precisely 3:1 in PS3's favour is a large drop. Could this be a whole of continental Europe thing?



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bananaking21 said:
PS4 undertracked by around 70k.
XB1 over tracked by 20k
PS3 over tracked by a whooping 300k
Xb360 over trackked by a massive 1 million.

Calling that VGC 360 number 'tracked' in any capacity is being generous. 



Sal.Paradise said:
bananaking21 said:
PS4 undertracked by around 70k.
XB1 over tracked by 20k
PS3 over tracked by a whooping 300k
Xb360 over trackked by a massive 1 million.

Calling that VGC 360 number 'tracked' in any capacity is being generous. 


ohhhh snap!!! 



bananaking21 said:
drake_tolu said:

CONFIRMED: XOne not have sold 5million.

Is overestimates by 120,000 in USA, and 20,000 in Germany...

For me the week of 19 July 2014, XOne have sold 4,750,000.


ohh you.

According to VGChartz, Xone have sold 4.96 million the week of 19 July...

Is overestimate by 140,000 only with USA and Germany, so only with this 2 markect, XOne have sold 4.82 million... but i'm not surprised if is overestimates by other 70,000 in rest of world... maybe even less than 4,750,000.



Yep, this just reinforces my conclusion that VGC's estimates on Europe are totally whack. Over 1 million overtracked on the 360 (and this is just Germany) is not acceptable.

And the X1 is doing really badly in Germany (and Europe, in general). It has gone from 2:1 last gen to almost 3:1 in Germany this gen.



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drake_tolu said:

According to VGChartz, Xone have sold 4.96 million the week of 19 July...

Is overestimate by 140,000 only with USA and Germany, so only with this 2 markect, XOne have sold 4.82 million... but i'm not surprised if is overestimates by other 70,000 in rest of world... maybe even less than 4,750,000.


its most likely over estimating it in the rest of EU too. 



binary solo said:
bananaking21 said:
PS4 undertracked by around 70k.
XB1 over tracked by 20k
PS3 over tracked by a whoopping 300k
Xb360 over trackked by a massive 1 million.

300K on a LTD of 4.2M is not whopping (whooping is a different word), it's only a 7% error.

OTOH 1 million overtrack on a LTD of 2.1M is massive, that's a 50% error.

If US is overtracked for Xb360 (as apparently LTD numbers from NPD indicates) and so is Germany by a massive amount, where is the monumental undertracking that LTD shipments of 360 would suggest? I think most people would say that VGC's global LTD for 360 is about right or slightly low. But it looks like individual country LTDs are way off and all over the place. But that some are massively under while others are massively over seems to balance things out globally.

And wow Xbox brand going from precisely 2:1 in PS3's favour to precisely 3:1 in PS3's favour is a large drop. Could this be a whole of continental Europe thing?


ehh i dont look at it that way. 300k is big. 1 million is massive. its that simple to me when it comes to a console that is at the end of its life. granted, i said the whooping before i saw the xbox 360 numbers, so whooping probably isnt the best word to use. 



Damn those 360 numbers, thats a massive over estimated LTD. VGC has its wok cut out, after the leaked NPD LTD, Sony/MS/Nin financials and now this.



Aura7541 said:

Yep, this just reinforces my conclusion that VGC's estimates on Europe are totally whack. Over 1 million overtracked on the 360 (and this is just Germany) is not acceptable.

And the X1 is doing really badly in Germany (and Europe, in general). It has gone from 2:1 last gen to almost 3:1 in Germany this gen.

My prediction is 10:1



bananaking21 said:
binary solo said:
bananaking21 said:
PS4 undertracked by around 70k.
XB1 over tracked by 20k
PS3 over tracked by a whoopping 300k
Xb360 over trackked by a massive 1 million.

300K on a LTD of 4.2M is not whopping (whooping is a different word), it's only a 7% error.

OTOH 1 million overtrack on a LTD of 2.1M is massive, that's a 50% error.

If US is overtracked for Xb360 (as apparently LTD numbers from NPD indicates) and so is Germany by a massive amount, where is the monumental undertracking that LTD shipments of 360 would suggest? I think most people would say that VGC's global LTD for 360 is about right or slightly low. But it looks like individual country LTDs are way off and all over the place. But that some are massively under while others are massively over seems to balance things out globally.

And wow Xbox brand going from precisely 2:1 in PS3's favour to precisely 3:1 in PS3's favour is a large drop. Could this be a whole of continental Europe thing?


ehh i dont look at it that way. 300k is big. 1 million is massive. its that simple to me when it comes to a console that is at the end of its life. granted, i said the whooping before i saw the xbox 360 numbers, so whooping probably isnt the best word to use. 

Whopping damnit, it's whopping! Unless you actually mean to celebrate that discrepancy by giving it a big hooray! Whoop whoop!

Yes 300K is a larger LTD discrepancy than it should be, LTDs should be under 5% difference from actual, and globally under 1% difference. But it does not suggest a serious flaw in VGC tracking for PS3 in Germany. Unlike 360 tracking which is terrible.



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