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amak11 on 03 August 2014

Probably a Japanese biased website. We have those here... playeressence, gamespot, IGN, forbes, etc



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oniyide on 03 August 2014
Scizor_99 said:
oniyide said:
mii-gamer said:
oniyide said:

im saying people will see Mario and buy it for 5 dollars cause its mario and they already have a phone. They do the same for Sonic and others. Their is no "smart" or "dumb" in that decision.

It's not as simple as you imply

Charging $5 or even $1 for a game in the mobile makert isn't a wise decision especially when there are thousands upon thousands of other games that essentially advertise being free. 

Why do you think so many devs opt for the f2p model?

Adapting their older games to the f2p isn't as easy as it may seem as well.

Then there is issue of discoverability and profitability.

Not to mention they are essentially diluting their brand and eating away into their own handheld business.

The mobile market is nothing but an opportunity to make a quick buck, for a company like Nintendo there is no opportunity for growth - they should focus on stengthening their core business and divesifying with other longterm ventures (like QOL)


naw you're making it more complicated than it is. By that logic there would be NO priced games on mobile and we know thats not the case. Plenty of non free games out there and people do buy them. Dont see why they wouldnt buy Ninty's stuff.


And the differences in revenue from priced to f2p games is HUGE. Investors would be mad if it weren't f2p. 

I'm not sure why, that with pretty much everyone here disagreeing with you, you're so sure that mobile VC would be a great idea for Nintendo. It could very well happen like this:

1. Nintendo puts retro Mario on iOS/Android for free (profits from ad revenue). Revenue spike, then fall. 

2. Investors pressure nintendo to release more games on smartphones. 

3. The few casual who still buy nintendo hardware and software (mostly 3ds) stop buying. After all, mommy can always say "you already have Mario on your phone" whenever a kid asks for a new device to play the new games. The price difference is just too big.

4. Shareholders point to fledgling profits in the console division and push for it to be closed in favor of developing new games for mobile platforms. If the CEO is opposed to such a move, they'll elect one who isn't. 

 


they could disagree all they want. They arent anymore right or wrong than i am since none of them are actual investors so none of us know what really goes on behind close doors. 

Revenue could spike and then fall, sure but how far will it fall? it surely will be doing better than what the are doing now.

Ninty doesnt have to give in to the pressure. Its called compromise

They'll still buy because little Timmy is still going to want the latest tech and games. By that logic no one would have gotten GTA 5 since they can get 3 on their phone

again compromise



oniyide on 03 August 2014
bluetoad said:
why dont the have a mobil division that make small unique game just for mobil. No mario, zelda ect but small experimental games. Use young new devs to do so. this way it puts nintendos name on mobile, gives people who dont own nintendo consoles a chance to discover the nintendo magic. And maybe the small experiments will lead to full blown games to put on their consoles that will have a new fan base.

that sounds like a good idea



oniyide on 03 August 2014
marley said:
oniyide said:
marley said:
oniyide said:
Soundwave said:
Well there is the other point that a lot of Nintendo's games simply wouldn't work that great on mobile.

The top grossing mobile games are not ports of old button based titles. I played Megaman 2 on iPhone ... it was a terrible experience.


they dont have to be top grossing, just sell enough to make a profit which im sure they could do.


Offering a crappy product, in the hopes of make a quick profit, is a terrible way to run a business.  Especially when all of the potential sales would come from name recognition.  It would certainly erode trust in their product.

??? who said anything about releasing a crappy product? where did you even get that from? The products wont be crappy if they do it right


You were responding to a post about their games not working well on mobile.  Hence, crappy product.

my point is people would still buy it, they buy them all the time



ikki5 on 03 August 2014

Honestly, their management either needs to go or drastically change. The decisions they make now with the reasons are just horrible. Nintendo is going to far down the hole. It is like they hit bottom and then started to dig even lower.



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IkePoR on 04 August 2014
ikki5 said:
Honestly, their management either needs to go or drastically change. The decisions they make now with the reasons are just horrible. Nintendo is going to far down the hole. It is like they hit bottom and then started to dig even lower.

What decisions are you reffering to?



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

ikki5 on 04 August 2014
IkePoR said:
ikki5 said:
Honestly, their management either needs to go or drastically change. The decisions they make now with the reasons are just horrible. Nintendo is going to far down the hole. It is like they hit bottom and then started to dig even lower.

What decisions are you reffering to?

Have you seen their marketing strategies? Have you seen the VC and overall digital structure and the state it is in? Their decision on the Horrid NNID system. Their region lockings decisions. CLub Nintendo is a complete joke. Their over all handling of the Wii U in general really. Like come on, they go on about the online capabilities for a system and then don't even really do it. Their signature game for the Wii U had no online (don't tell me that having peoples miis counts as online) and then now we have other games that are comining out that are local co-op only. The constant restrictions they put on to make things kid friendly even though you have a browser that you can go and browse for porn. They're not doing anything really to interest developers to their system so instead. Developers are walking away and leaving them out making it so there is hardly anything coming. I don't  know about you though, I don't like getting a quality game every 3-4 months and after each one is followed by drought after drought after drought.



HyrulianScrolls on 04 August 2014

If Iwata is all that's standing in the way of Nintendo becoming a useless mobile developer than we should all be bowing down to him like a god and pray that he stays where he is.



Devil_Survivor on 04 August 2014

This been debunked as NeoGaf BS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVPJ2CDtyk



 

TreeTurtle on 04 August 2014

It's not really scheming now since it's on the interwebs and Iwata can probably see this article now..



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