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I feel like saying yeah, you are probably right but only because of the strength of PS4 in the other regions. Publisher strength overall in favour of one platform over another usually has a big part to play and a message in these things.

We will see strength and resistance, perhaps a rallying due in a large part to strong software exclusives or partnerships (EA springs to mind due to previous boss allegiances). However, since Sony is bullish enough to not court EA and choose to publicly denounce their offering recently.... This could just be Sony saying to EA you chose the wrong side or you are no longer as influential a player as you think you are, or stay out of our future field of play since you offer a restricted product and we want to kill it by reducing your audience.

Lots of unanswered questions, speculation, intrigue, all of which should keep this gen interesting for at least a year or so before we see if the Xbox One in the US can recover and spread to the rest of the world. Sony do not have it won yet, the start has been tremendous for both consoles, one is just enjoying the limelight a little more right now.

I am loving it, all but the tunnel vision that is.



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DerNebel said:
JayWood2010 said:


Tell youu what, instead of having this back and forth with you where tou take decades of games and try and pass it off as current, ill just make a bet with you

Im willing to bet that the Masterchief Collection outsells Windwaker HD

And Im willing to bet Halo 5 outsells Zelda U

Those are both ridiculously easy wins for you. (unless WWHD becomes force bundled with the Wii U)


And most funny thing is the origin of this comment or quote tree is my comment which stated uncharted 4 will sell more than halo 5. Lol. How things have changed.



Yeah... as of right now. I wouldn't be too surprised if Xbox One was able to overtake PS4 in the USA again. Especially with titles like Halo 5 etc.



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JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:


Tell youu what, instead of having this back and forth with you where tou take decades of games and try and pass it off as current, ill just make a bet with you

Im willing to bet that the Masterchief Collection outsells Windwaker HD

And Im willing to bet Halo 5 outsells Zelda U

What does that have to do with anything I've said. As a series, they have sold the same in America. Fact.

Halo sells more on average, so it will obviously out sell both.

However, Halo is not Mario tier. End of Story.

small44 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
small44 said:

Best selling zelda sold less then 8 millions best selling halo sold 13 millions

And best selling Mario sold 34.5 million.

Is 11.9 million(What the best selling Halo actually sold) closer to 7.6 million or 34.5 million?

Halo is the biggest Microsoft first party and Mario is the biggest nintendo first party so Halo is the Microsoft mario not Zelda.

Xbox's Biggest First Party is behind Nintendo's Zelda, so its not even close to Mario. Its like comparing the biggest rodent to the biggest mammal.



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Zisbest said:
Yeah... as of right now. I wouldn't be too surprised if Xbox One was able to overtake PS4 in the USA again. Especially with titles like Halo 5 etc.


Yahh cause PS has nothing to counter that.  There is No Uncharted TLUS GOW GT etc, Nope they dont exists no way.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

 


That is exactly what i thought, because as i said Zelda is not as big as Halo(it has been this way for years, and nobody is talking about decades of sales either).  Nobody is talking about mario accept for you




       

JayWood2010 said:
daredevil.shark said:


Soory bro. But I used the term "potential". PS4's bigger install base + increasing attach rate + goodwill + hype can make miracles. I am not discrediting halo sales. They are very impressive. But change has started. And nothing stays at top forever.


Youre basing potential off what exactly? That is my point.  You can talk, and  ill show numbers

Not saying that UC4 is going to outsell Halo 5, but I think there is a pretty significant growth potential in store for UC4. The simple fact that ND has made TLOU, a game that when all is said and done could possibly sell 10 million or more units, should give UC4 a real boost in exposure, cause even if ND has always been a studio that was regarded very highly among PS fans, it was still that game that gave them a name that everyone in gaming has heard about, even more than UC2 did before that. Combine that with the game being an exclusive to basically the "worlds favourite console" and it's a guaranteed hit already, I personally expect the game to at least do 7 million.

And Halo could possibly shrink, I don't know that much about it, but I've heard that a lot of people weren't so happy with Halo 4, so who knows. I wouldn't say it's certain that UC4 will outsell Halo 5, but it's definitely not out of the cards.



BeElite said:
Zisbest said:
Yeah... as of right now. I wouldn't be too surprised if Xbox One was able to overtake PS4 in the USA again. Especially with titles like Halo 5 etc.


Yahh cause PS has nothing to counter that.  There is No Uncharted TLUS GOW GT etc, Nope they dont exists no way.

Those games do exist, I wanted to tackle a different point though. Xbox sure is healthy Brand in the USA and with games like Halo 5 and the Master Chief collection (which are very much targeted towards the NA market) they might be able to gain some more land again. No need to be so harsh.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:


Tell youu what, instead of having this back and forth with you where tou take decades of games and try and pass it off as current, ill just make a bet with you

Im willing to bet that the Masterchief Collection outsells Windwaker HD

And Im willing to bet Halo 5 outsells Zelda U

What does that have to do with anything I've said. As a series, they have sold the same in America. Fact.

Halo sells more on average, so it will obviously out sell both.

However, Halo is not Mario tier. End of Story.

small44 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
small44 said:

Best selling zelda sold less then 8 millions best selling halo sold 13 millions

And best selling Mario sold 34.5 million.

Is 11.9 million(What the best selling Halo actually sold) closer to 7.6 million or 34.5 million?

Halo is the biggest Microsoft first party and Mario is the biggest nintendo first party so Halo is the Microsoft mario not Zelda.

Xbox's Biggest First Party is behind Nintendo's Zelda, so its not even close to Mario. Its like comparing the biggest rodent to the biggest mammal.

There is more Zelda games then Halo games no main Zelda game outsold Halo game



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Fusioncode said:

Since it's launch PS4 has largely dominated the US almost every month. The argument a few months back was "wait for Titanfall", well Titanfall came and went and PS4 still won. The next argument was that "PS4 is $100 cheaper", well last month the XBO achieved price parity and PS4 still won handily. Now what? Wait for Halo? EA's early access? 

Nope, the PS4 has won North America this gen. There's really nothing left that can change the tides at this point. 

Talk about grace in victory.....

The gen isn't even a year old. We know it can't do anything globally, but a $50 price cut this holiday with major marketing could swing the tide. Just saying both sides have their cards to play.



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