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Frogger on 21 July 2014
mZuzek said:
spemanig said:

Bravely Default is a 2013 release everywhere but the US. It's 2013. Castlevania LOS was a big game. Pokemon MD was a big game. Professor Layton was a big game. I don't see how they wouldn't be in the same catagory as the others, while it's completely obvious why the Kirby game wouldn't be in the same catagory as the others. It has nothing to do with it being a Kirby game. It just has the game design of a much smaller eshop title. I don't even think Yoshi should be on the list of "big" releases, but I'm letting that one go because I counted DKC:TF in 2014 when I didn't want to.

And the Wii U hasn't had any such surprises like the 3DS. The only new games we learned of this year for this year on the Wii U is that Toad game. And that Xenoblade was being delayed. I highly doubt we'll be getting any news for 2015 other than a title being delayed, and maybe SMT x FE actually coming out next year, but that's literally just me being hopeful.


Well, I live in the Americas (same region as US) and for me Bravely Default came out in 2014.

I also find it funny how you changed from "huge" game to "big" game now. Castlevania was definitely a big game, though not really on par with the other titles. Pokémon Mistery Dungeon and Professor Layton are certainly not big though.

As for Kirby, it's Kirby. It might look eShop to you, but if that's the case, then most Kirby games do anyway. This is not the point - the point is that this is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, so it is undeniably a big game to hit the system just like Triple Deluxe was.

Also, the Wii U has surprises. No one saw Splatoon and Star Fox coming - even Mario Maker was surprising, though that one for sure looks eShop level. (and yes, Star Fox is definitely coming in 2016, but still)

EDIT: Seriously though, the 3DS's 2014 isn't even that bad... it's actually pretty good. Not 2013 kind of good, but still pretty good.


And everywhere else in the world, BD is a 2013 game and when people bring up the 3DS 2013 library, BD is always in the conversation.

It wasn't a concious change. Substitute all the bigs with huge if it makes you feel better. You know what I mean. Castlevania absolutely is on par with the others. And yes, PMD and Professor Layton absolutely are as big as the others.

That Kirby game is nothing like most Kirbies. It is very much not a big game just like the Toad game isn't.

Those surpises were for the following year. That does nothing for 2015. All that shows is that yes, we'll likely see a few 2016 suprises at E3 next year. Hurray.

No, it's pretty terrible. Really disappointing. 



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animegaming on 21 July 2014
Lucas-Rio said:
animegaming said:
spemanig said:
Lucas-Rio said:

Hmmm no.

Last year was so good that it was obvious that Nintendo couldn't keep up at this level this year, while they are also focusing on the Wii U. But in the west there are still Kirby, Tomodachi, Pokemon, Layton vs Phoenix Wright, Mario Golf and Smash Bros released. So it's wrong saying there is nothing being released.

Why the hell not though? They have a product to support. We shouldn't just be fine with less support because poor Nintendo's got their hands tied. No. Do your fucking job Nintendo. If you're having trouble keeping up, fix it. Build more teams to make more games.

There's not enough big games being released. It's not wrong to say that.

your really acting like they didn't release anything for the 3DS this year and besides the reason they couldn't keep up with the support this year is cause with the amount of games they released last year for the 3DS which is effecting this years line up cause they had teams working on 3DS games for 2013 and when those games were finished they started working on new one's that could take a couple years to finish


That's true as well. ds games are not made in just one year. I think we should not expect a 3DS replacement before 2016-2017, so that's at least 2 more years after this one, because the 3DS has no competition currently and that Nintendo will seek to rack profits after all the hard work.

We shoulde expect another Fire Emblem and Zelda at least.


we might get one more Zelda for the 3DS not sure about Fire Emblem though since the guy's that made Fire Emblem Awakening are currently either developing Code Name Steam or SMT X Fire Emblem



Lucas-Rio on 21 July 2014
spemanig said:
mZuzek said:
spemanig said:

Bravely Default is a 2013 release everywhere but the US. It's 2013. Castlevania LOS was a big game. Pokemon MD was a big game. Professor Layton was a big game. I don't see how they wouldn't be in the same catagory as the others, while it's completely obvious why the Kirby game wouldn't be in the same catagory as the others. It has nothing to do with it being a Kirby game. It just has the game design of a much smaller eshop title. I don't even think Yoshi should be on the list of "big" releases, but I'm letting that one go because I counted DKC:TF in 2014 when I didn't want to.

And the Wii U hasn't had any such surprises like the 3DS. The only new games we learned of this year for this year on the Wii U is that Toad game. And that Xenoblade was being delayed. I highly doubt we'll be getting any news for 2015 other than a title being delayed, and maybe SMT x FE actually coming out next year, but that's literally just me being hopeful.


Well, I live in the Americas (same region as US) and for me Bravely Default came out in 2014.

I also find it funny how you changed from "huge" game to "big" game now. Castlevania was definitely a big game, though not really on par with the other titles. Pokémon Mistery Dungeon and Professor Layton are certainly not big though.

As for Kirby, it's Kirby. It might look eShop to you, but if that's the case, then most Kirby games do anyway. This is not the point - the point is that this is one of Nintendo's biggest franchises, so it is undeniably a big game to hit the system just like Triple Deluxe was.

Also, the Wii U has surprises. No one saw Splatoon and Star Fox coming - even Mario Maker was surprising, though that one for sure looks eShop level. (and yes, Star Fox is definitely coming in 2016, but still)

EDIT: Seriously though, the 3DS's 2014 isn't even that bad... it's actually pretty good. Not 2013 kind of good, but still pretty good.


And everywhere else in the world, BD is a 2013 game and when people bring up the 3DS 2013 library, BD is always in the conversation.

It wasn't a concious change. Substitute all the bigs with huge if it makes you feel better. You know what I mean. Castlevania absolutely is on par with the others. And yes, PMD and Professor Layton absolutely are as big as the others.

That Kirby game is nothing like most Kirbies. It is very much not a big game just like the Toad game isn't.

Those surpises were for the following year. That does nothing for 2015. All that shows is that yes, we'll likely see a few 2016 suprises at E3 next year. Hurray.

No, it's pretty terrible. Really disappointing. 

Actually, Bravely default was a 2012 game in Japan, like AC and FE were.

I said to you that in 2013, Europe got everything, the great 2013 games worldwide and the best JP 2012 games.



KLXVER on 21 July 2014
kupomogli said:
KLXVER said:


But then the comparison doesnt matter to anyone but you. There are probably people who think the Sega Saturn has better games than the Playstation because theyve only played a few PS1 games and alot of Saturn games. If I made a list of games that appeal to me then the 3DS list would be smaller, but your PSP list would contain like 5 games tops.

You cant use your opinion as proof that one console has better games than another. You have to look at scores, sales and what other people think about them...

I never said my opinion was proof that one console has better games t han another and said in the previous post that your opinion is yours, and mine is mine. Because I pointed out your opinion was uninformed doesn't change that.  Your listing games you haven't played and games that haven't been released is just that.

If you listed 10 or 15 games for the 3DS and made an argument that the games are a lot better than the PSP titles and that's your reasoning, then I wouldn't argue with that.  There are games on the 3DS that are better than those in the PSPs library imo.  SMT4 is better  than every PSP RPG imo.  But as I've said, now the fourth time(third time is just above in this same post,) that you haven't played games in the list and listed unreleased games, your opinion to me was just an uninformed and biased opinion.   


Then why did you make the list? A simple "I dont agree with you" would have been fine...

This thread isnt about what games we enjoyed on the PSP or 3DS. Its about how the 3DS is doing this year.



Frogger on 21 July 2014
animegaming said:

it honestly sounds like last year really spoiled you cause there was no way Nintendo could of top that for the 3DS hell i don't expect to see any of the first parties release that many games in a single at once and besides would you rather have games like Code Name: Steam rushed at the door and be buggy as shit just to release in 2014 or wait until 2015 for the game to be polished and function properly 


Your standards for the 3DS are not high enough then, because last year should be the yearly norm. They shouldn't have to rush anything. They should have enough games being developed at the same time to avoid droughts.



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animegaming on 21 July 2014
KLXVER said:
spemanig said:
animegaming said:

last year people were saying in reverse about the Wii U and how Nintendo needs to make less games for the 3DS and more the Wii U and i imagine its kinda hard to manage both a console and handheld division's now considering how Nintendo has entered HD development which takes like double the resources to make a single game


I wasn't. They should have planned for that and expanded accordingly. "It's hard" is not an excuse.


They could delay more games I guess...

then they would complain about the games getting delay though i would be setting here and be like

"if this prevents from being another Battlefield 4 everything is A okay"



kupomogli on 21 July 2014
KLXVER said:

Super Mario 3D World

Mario Kart 7

The Legend Of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds

The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time 3D

Kid Icarus: Uprising

Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D

Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask

Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy

Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright

Bravely Default

Resident Evil: Revelations

Paper Mario: Sticker Star

Mario & Luigi: Dream Team

Luigis Mansion 2

Cave Story 3D

Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance

Animal Crossing: New Leaf

Fire Emblem: Awakening

Kirby: Triple Deluxe

New Super Mario Bros. 2

Monster Hunter 3

Monster Hunter 4

Pokemon X/Y

Rhythm Thief & the Emperors Treasure

Shin Megami Tensei 4

Super Street Fighter 4: 3D Edition

Theaterrhythm: Final Fantasy

 

Thats just the games I know got good scores. Didnt include any eshop games either.

Oh, and I want to point something else out which I just noticed.

KLXVER said:

Cant expect every year to be great though. Its a slow year for me because I dont care about Kirby TD, Yoshis NI, Mario Golf, Pokemon, Tomodachi Life etc...

Next year might be different though...

Just noticed this.  I'd like to put an emphasis on my biased comment in the previous post.  Use these " ".



Frogger on 21 July 2014
Lucas-Rio said:

Actually, Bravely default was a 2012 game in Japan, like AC and FE were.

I said to you that in 2013, Europe got everything, the great 2013 games worldwide and the best JP 2012 games.


And in 2014, it should have been the same, but it wasn't.



Lucas-Rio on 21 July 2014
spemanig said:
animegaming said:

it honestly sounds like last year really spoiled you cause there was no way Nintendo could of top that for the 3DS hell i don't expect to see any of the first parties release that many games in a single at once and besides would you rather have games like Code Name: Steam rushed at the door and be buggy as shit just to release in 2014 or wait until 2015 for the game to be polished and function properly 


Your standards for the 3DS are not high enough then, because last year should be the yearly norm. They shouldn't have to rush anything. They should have enough games being developed at the same time to avoid droughts.


I think you fail to understand that developping games are not as easy as saying "I need to release a game per month".  Nintendo's output on 3DS has been fantastic so far with all things considered, not only in quantity, but also in quality.



animegaming on 21 July 2014
spemanig said:
animegaming said:

it honestly sounds like last year really spoiled you cause there was no way Nintendo could of top that for the 3DS hell i don't expect to see any of the first parties release that many games in a single at once and besides would you rather have games like Code Name: Steam rushed at the door and be buggy as shit just to release in 2014 or wait until 2015 for the game to be polished and function properly 


Your standards for the 3DS are not high enough then, because last year should be the yearly norm. They shouldn't have to rush anything. They should have enough games being developed at the same time to avoid droughts.


unless if they don't have enough man power to release like the same number of 3DS year after year as 2013 and besides Monster Hunter 3, and Fire Emblem Awakening, and Phenoix Wright Dual Destiny were like 2011 and 2012 games in Japan so since i saw you discrediting Bravely Default i will discredit those as well