Sales were never the same in comparison to tekken 2 and 3, but tekken 5 and 6 still sold better than tekken 4. I think fighting games started to lose steam around that time as well as the fact that tekken 4 wasn't that well received. 

I think fighting games in general have been on an overall decline both sales wise and mindshare cause they employ an archaic business model that doesn't fit into the modern age of gaming. fighting games peaked when multiplayer meant two players playing on one screen. But they never made the shift to online multiplayer the way the should have. Which is shocking cause they have the perfect foundations as to what will make the ultimate online multiplyer game. 

Whats funny, is that fighting games in this modern age is the only genre of gaming that can benefit from the arcade like business model of old. Think you download the game for free but pay 25c for tokens to play.

I liked tekken revolution, but definately prefer the model of paying 60 dollars for the full product. I will say that they could make different versions where you pay for everything or you can pay for tokens and a character at your discretion, but overall I feel like most people want all their content from the go for an established francchise like tekken. 

Yh, I get where you are coming from. But I am not even saying that the free to play model be like tekken revolution or like killer instict wheer you pay for more characters or to upgrade charcter stats.

The model I am thinking of would have the entire game be unlocked to you on day one. The only things you would pay for are tokens to play and chracter customization items. Nothing more; even the tokens you won't have to pay for cause just like tekken revolution you can get free tokens every 30mins but can only hold a maximum of 5 free tokens. But an unlimited number of paid tokens.

This game model is based on in game add support. So every token basically represents 2 guranteed ad hits for them, one during the character select screen and one during the transition screen just before the fight starts (in between charcater select and fight). So if 1 million people play every day for as many games as their 5 free tokens can get them, you are looking at a miimum fo 5M matches every day and a generated 10M ad hits per day. Thats better than most websites manage. Money made from people actually buying tokens to play or customization items will just be a bonus. And it would be easy getting over a million people to play when playing is free. and you are getting the full  content of the game. Even practice sessions will cost a token. Though whil ein a session you can practice for as long as you want.

The whole point of all this is to eliminate that barrier of entry. You stand a better chance of getting millions more poeple to try your game if you can make them game free. And in truth, very few gaming genres out there can benefit from a free to play model such as this than fighting games. That after all is excatly what they did back in the arcade days.

That's stupid.  Overcharge everyone when we can have it for 60 dollars?  I'd be over 60 dollars before the month is out.  There isn't a single real fighting game that does anthing close to that.  Tekken Revolution is not that great.  It's just slightly below average.  Especially with the ability to upgrade your fighters and make them near impossible to defeat.

The reason why you paid 25 cents a turn in the arcades were because the machines were thousands of dollars.  And, it was just for ONE game.  If you're running a business, you're not going to buy a 6,000 dollar machine, and let everyone play it for free.

Not willing to have advertisements pay for my game, and STILL have to pay fees on top.

The whole idea behind revolution was terrible.  It allowed some people to play as much as they wanted, for free, while charging others.

If there is a free component to Tekken 7, I will stick to the paid version.  Avoid any BS that revolution brought up.  I like tekken 5, and tekken tag 2...  Don't care for 6 at all.  Revolution just wasn't all that fun.

DevilRising said:
Why would they use the Unreal Engine when the previous Tekken engines were.....just fine?

No they weren't.  Unless you were on PS3.  The arcade boards were based on PS hardware.  This is the first Tekken game to not do this from the start.  All it did was make us wait a long time for the game to get ported to 360.

Raven316 said:
I'll buy it if it has online capabilities. True fighting games like Tekken, Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive can make a huge comeback this gen if done right

What fighting game released in this age wouldn't?

WhiteEaglePL said:
:O go tekken! Though I still do not enjoy side scrolling fighting games, anymore.

Its all about Smash or Dead or Alive :Dimensions.!

Tekken is not street fighter, you've had 3D movement since Tekken 3.

Most fireballs in Tekken X Street Fighter will have slow start-up.  They will be downright useless to do in someone's face, I could see fireballs taking at least 20 frames start-up..  It's not going to be a problem.  They will be slow enough to see, but not so slow that they cannot be comboed into.

If they have to be charged, like what's-her-face from Tekken Revolution, then they will no doubt be blockable upclose.. And if you're far away, you better charge it all the way.

With a slow start-up they will probably be fast, and wide too.  Maybe too much so to sidestep without ample time.  Or at least, you wouldn't be able to side-walk the projectiles.

1. Yes no single fighting game does this. and I said you won't be allowed to upgrade character stats (though i doubt you actually ready what i said to begin with). 
2. Don't get what you are saying here. You seem to forget that with my proposed model, you are actually getting the game for free (kinda). If you choose not to pay for tokens, you get a free token every 30mins. But can hold no more than 5 free tokens at a time. You only lose tokens when you lose a fight. If you can't wait for the free tokens, then you can spend $1 for 5 tokens.
3. See above, the ads are what natively pays for your game. Its the guranteed way for them to make money after giving the game away for free. Paying for tokens or for character customization items are all optional. You don't have to do it. If you are patient, you  get 5 tokens every 2.5hrs or 1 every 30 mins. If you don't lose, you can play an infinate number of games with your 5 tokens. as i said, you only lose a token when you lose a fight. If you for any reason have used up your available tokens and don't wait to wait for however time is left on the countdown to your next free token, you can then buy tokens. Don't see how this is a problem.
4. I don't know what revolution you played, but the one I played everyone could play for free while waiting for tokens and everyone could buy tokens too. 
5. This isn't about which tekken was fun to play or wasnt. This is about a business model. If there was anything i didnt like about revolution was that you could boost your player stats. in a way it still balanced out cause you could boost health as much as you could boost power so everything balances out at the end as long as both players are evenly matched but that was still a poor implementation of what i fel a free to play business model could be.

Maybe a better way to do all this, will be tp simply make two options available.

• buy the full game for $60
• no ads 
• unlimited play
• still have to buy player customization items 
  
  or
  
  
• Get the full game for free
• ad supported
• get free token every 30mins (can't have more than 5 free tokens)
• option to buy 5 tokens for $1

OP please update the thread with the super sexy reveal trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3LuFSZqp4E