Why do you automatically assume it's a Wii U thread? It's just a general "I'm sick of there always having to be a best game based on sales alone" thread.

In my argument I assumed that if one enjoys something, one does it for a longer period. I exclude mazochism. My apologies if I didnt make this clear.

Nothing to do with mazochism. It can simply have more replayability of more content to wade through. Doesn't mean i enjoy it more than a game I played less of. I played +500 hours of L4D1 and i enjoyed several 5 hour indies more than that game. It's like the difference between going out to the bar casually with friends every weekend and going to a foreign country having a really fantastic one-time holiday. I know which one i remember and which one i forget..

I am not arguing for any game or console. I am arguing for the concept of best vs. popular.

To be precise you meant commercial success only, did you not? There are many time of successes.

Indeed these are objective metrics applying to consoles (power and sales) and games (sales). However you should then talk about most powerful or most popular but not THE BEST. There is no objective metric of THE BEST as there is no definition of THE BEST. If you do not know something how can you actually measure it and then rank it?

People claim a system is better than the other to try to justify their purchase and to make themselves feel better. That's just how it is with fanboy types. They'll use sales and stuff like ''well my console sold this many units so that makes it king'' or something,its to try to show superiority over someone else for a piece of plastic. It's rather silly

While people fight over numbers and quantity sold, at least myself and many others will not fly a console flag or play console loyalty and enjoy what all three companies have to offer,regardless of sales numbers or quantity lol


this is in response to the original quote

''Philosophically speaking the beat selling console is not the best. It is the most popular. Popularity does not equal quality. There are countless examples of pop culture that I will not reiterate.
Hence concepts such as best console, most sold, top-10 etc are invalid. Popularity is subjective. There is no objectivity. Quality is objective but you ought to have an objective metric.''

That made me laugh a whole lot more than it should've.

Yes. And I agree their are many types of successes. However, the only success that we aren't relative are those proven by fact. I.E sales numbers, official profitability statements, the works.

So you pretty much just made a pretentious thread to ask what game we have played the most?

Final Fantasy 7.