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MohammadBadir said:

That is no way a smart move.

As for Project Cars, you do know it was a crow funded game, right? People paid for the game to be made on PS360, the WiiU, and PC.

People didn't really care they about the fact that they moved development to PS4One, but tell me this, if you were a WiiU owner, would you have donated for this game, knowing it'll get delayed for 6 months? No, you wouldn't. That's why a lot of people are pissed off. 

Honestly?  I wouldn't fund a game unless I wanted to play it and if I want to play it now, I'd still want to play it in 6 months.  I think the "I don't want to play it anymore because it was delayed" rationale is a completely bullshit excuse.  Are Nintendo fans angry at Nintendo for all these games they've had delayed recently?  No, they aren't.  That means that the people upset over something like this simply have hurt feelings.

I'd like to ask a question of those protesting.  If you owned a studio and you had the choice of missing the holiday season completely by delaying everything, OR only delaying the hardest to develop game, which would you chose?  And, no, please do not tell me that the PC is not the most important version of the game.



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pokoko said:

I'd like to ask a question of those protesting.  If you owned a studio and you had the choice of missing the holiday season completely by delaying everything, OR only delaying the hardest to develop game, which would you chose?  And, no, please do not tell me that the PC is not the most important version of the game.


I would delay the hardest one to develop and tell the people that "Im sorry this had to happen and will work hard to make it a great game with unique features."

I would not tell them to "Just wait. Its not like you have any other options anyway."



KLXVER said:
pokoko said:

I'd like to ask a question of those protesting.  If you owned a studio and you had the choice of missing the holiday season completely by delaying everything, OR only delaying the hardest to develop game, which would you chose?  And, no, please do not tell me that the PC is not the most important version of the game.


I would delay the hardest one to develop and tell the people that "Im sorry this had to happen and will work hard to make it a great game with unique features."

I would not tell them to "Just wait. Its not like you have any other options anyway."

That's not how a business works. They give priority to the version that will sell more, which is why this is happening more often. Business are run by logic not feelings.



KLXVER said:
pokoko said:

I'd like to ask a question of those protesting.  If you owned a studio and you had the choice of missing the holiday season completely by delaying everything, OR only delaying the hardest to develop game, which would you chose?  And, no, please do not tell me that the PC is not the most important version of the game.


I would delay the hardest one to develop and tell the people that "Im sorry this had to happen and will work hard to make it a great game with unique features."

I would not tell them to "Just wait. Its not like you have any other options anyway."

You mean like this?

“...it's about delivering the right experience and making it right for Nintendo fans.” … “we respect the fans of all our titles. You are the most important. Sorry.”

As for the comment about those who want to play the game on the Wii U, they're absolutely right.  Those who want it will wait, just like they'll wait for Zelda or any other Nintendo game that gets delayed.  If Nintendo said the same thing, no one would have a problem with it.

This isn't about the Wii U version getting delayed at all.  Plain and simple, it's anger that the PS4/XO versions will release first, even though it makes perfect sense given how close they are to the architecture of the PC and that they do not have gamepad functions to worry about.



pokoko said:

You mean like this?

“...it's about delivering the right experience and making it right for Nintendo fans.” … “we respect the fans of all our titles. You are the most important. Sorry.”

As for the comment about those who want to play the game on the Wii U, they're absolutely right.  Those who want it will wait, just like they'll wait for Zelda or any other Nintendo game that gets delayed.  If Nintendo said the same thing, no one would have a problem with it.

This isn't about the Wii U version getting delayed at all.  Plain and simple, it's anger that the PS4/XO versions will release first, even though it makes perfect sense given how close they are to the architecture of the PC and that they do not have gamepad functions to worry about.


Let me guess. You dont own a WiiU and dont care much about Nintendo games...



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KLXVER said:
pokoko said:

You mean like this?

“...it's about delivering the right experience and making it right for Nintendo fans.” … “we respect the fans of all our titles. You are the most important. Sorry.”

As for the comment about those who want to play the game on the Wii U, they're absolutely right.  Those who want it will wait, just like they'll wait for Zelda or any other Nintendo game that gets delayed.  If Nintendo said the same thing, no one would have a problem with it.

This isn't about the Wii U version getting delayed at all.  Plain and simple, it's anger that the PS4/XO versions will release first, even though it makes perfect sense given how close they are to the architecture of the PC and that they do not have gamepad functions to worry about.


Let me guess. You dont own a WiiU and dont care much about Nintendo games...

What does that have to do with anything at all?  I say the same thing every time people get angry over delays that aren't moneyhatted.  This delay, in particular, is very easy to understand.  People who actually care about the game, and care about the developer, will be disappointed but they should get why this is happening.

I don't even really know what people are asking for.  Do they want to hurt the developer by having them delay the entire game and miss the holidays?  Do they want the developer to release a Wii U version that isn't ready?  

The only real mistake the developer has made is not having a PR person deliver the new with polished, flowery words and phrasing that can't be twisted.  That's a problem for most small developers, though.



pokoko said:

What does that have to do with anything at all?  I say the same thing every time people get angry over delays that aren't moneyhatted.  This delay, in particular, is very easy to understand.  People who actually care about the game, and care about the developer, will be disappointed but they should get why this is happening.

I don't even really know what people are asking for.  Do they want to hurt the developer by having them delay the entire game and miss the holidays?  Do they want the developer to release a Wii U version that isn't ready?  

The only real mistake the developer has made is not having a PR person deliver the new with polished, flowery words and phrasing that can't be twisted.  That's a problem for most small developers, though.


Doesnt matter how much they sugarcoat it. The message was very clear. If you want it for the WiiU, then you will wait for the game because its all youre gonna get.

Why do you think this game wont sell as well on the WiiU compared to other platforms? Im guessing its because you know that third party games dont tend to do very well on the WiiU.

Same reason why I think you dont care about the WiiU or Nintendo, because people like you are usually the ones taking the developers side when they are clearly the ones to blame in all this.

They had to delay the game because they wanted to make it the best they can. Thats fine. Some were probably a bit disappointed and wondered why, but treating the people who helped you fund and advertise your game like this is unacceptable. Plain and simple.



Aielyn said:
vivster said:
Also: If there is more demand for the Wii U version why is it selling better on PS4 and X1?

Why is what selling better on PS4 and X1? The game hasn't released yet.


Litterally every game is "What."



Captain_Tom said:
Aielyn said:
vivster said:
Also: If there is more demand for the Wii U version why is it selling better on PS4 and X1?

Why is what selling better on PS4 and X1? The game hasn't released yet.


Litterally every game is "What."


Rayman Legends sold better on WiiU than PS4 and XB1...



MohammadBadir said:
BreedinBull said:
lol, that anger though. When I first heard about Project Cars I was a little intrigued about what they were trying to do. When I heard they were making a Wii-U version, I was a little confused as they were going for bleeding edge graphics, which...you know...isn't really a Wii-U thing. Also I can't understand people who prefer the Wii-U as their only console and then expect third party racing sims with all the bell and whistles as say PS4/X1. The devs of Project Cars just as you have the right to not buy their game, have to right to release their game on whichever platform, whenever they want. They didn't force you to game solely on the platform with the worst third party support. This doesn't bother me though, Nintendo is getting pushed ever more to make the smart move and become a third party dev.

That is no way a smart move.

As for Project Cars, you do know it was a crow funded game, right? People paid for the game to be made on PS360, the WiiU, and PC.

People didn't really care they about the fact that they moved development to PS4One, but tell me this, if you were a WiiU owner, would you have donated for this game, knowing it'll get delayed for 6 months? No, you wouldn't. That's why a lot of people are pissed off. 

the platform that will sell the least is getting 6 additional months of development time.  

 

to me, sounds like nintendo fans are on the recieving end of a charity drive.  like when retro city rampage was put on wii even though he knew he'd never see a dime of money for his efforts.