Don't forget the Saturn, it also has a browser and online play. Sega was extremely ahead of their time. I only harped on the DC online endeavor because SegaNet most closely resembles XBL (pay to play, one unique profile ID, player ratings, central community hub).

7th gen Nintendo more than competed they dominated by tapping into the casual market which made M$ and Sony create their own motion peripherials and 8th gen just started so no one knows yet...but I do doubt Nintendo will dominate.

I didn't realy get to know the Saturn since it was so short lived

Yeah I guess I would agree with that considering the 360/PS3 are going to eventually sell close to 100 million each. Just a dramatic increase in the amount of gamers thanks to the Wii. Of course they don't seem to be coming back yet to the WiiU. I agree that Sony doesn't deserve any credit for growing games up either, it had been that way on PC's and of course it was going to come to consoles, all those gamers who grew up on Nintendo and Sega were bound to become adults.

Nintendo has a bizarre 3rd party relationship that prevents them from really competing with MicroSony now. Its like their platforms are a place to just play Nintendo games with a small sprinkle of 3rd party thrown in. Where as strong 3rd party is vital. I don't think this is an element Sony created, it existed before Nintnedo started fucking up.

3DO was awesome. Owned one and loved it.

7th gen is the crux of my argument. Stacking up against the PS360, it should have been a flop, I mean it was very low risk compared to its competitors and released last. But when Nintendo realized that new people started picking it up, they jumped on it. The GC was market toward children while the Wii was marketed towards the entire family. And that paid off, big time.

Or... maybe if you make an argument title it and develop it properly, and don't discount any criticism by saying "then create your own thread"?  I mean, I'm sorry, I thought you put out thoughts that you were ready and able to defend.  If that wasn't the case I apologize for challenging half baked ideas.

"Playstation created the industry"

False, clickbait title worthy of N4G.

Actually, Playstation exists thanks to Nintendo's cockyness but then again Nintendo always rocked this industry because Atari created E.T.

Its because Nintendo is a Game Developer as well. 3rd party existed before Sony, but since Nintendo dominate the market, it controlled the 3rd parties, and it would organize them in away to benefit it. When Sony came in, it provided an alternative that Sega didn't have since unlike Nintendo or Sega it wasn't a game developer.

So the truth of the matter is...Atari created the market for the masses...Nintendo had to save it....Sega was too ahead of their time...Sony was bitter and gave 3rd parties a way from under Nintendo's thumb....M$ threw money at it and online for all systems was determined by their practices.