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curl-6 said:
OriginalGod said:
curl-6 said:

If Wii U was PS4/Xbone spec, devs would still give it the short end of the stick because they expect games on it to flop, and in doing so, they cause the flop themselves. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

And that's Nintendos fault for al's fault for over the years shunning third parties and going threre own way despite what the entire industry wanted/needed.

The opportunity was there for third parties to make money on Nintendo consoles. For the most part, third parties squandered that opportunity.


LOL it's all devs fault who WANT more then anything to make money, not nintendo. Please. Nintendo has themselves to blame period. If they had made a platform that fostered development, success third parties would be there period.



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OriginalGod said:

LOL it's all devs fault who WANT more then anything to make money, not nintendo. Please. Nintendo has themselves to blame period. If they had made a platform that fostered development, success third parties would be there period.

Yes, it is the devs fault. They could have grown an audience on Nintendo systems, but instead they did everthing in their power to turn that audience against them with poor quality offerings.



curl-6 said:
OriginalGod said:

LOL it's all devs fault who WANT more then anything to make money, not nintendo. Please. Nintendo has themselves to blame period. If they had made a platform that fostered development, success third parties would be there period.

Yes, it is the devs fault. They could have grown an audience on Nintendo systems, but instead they did everthing in their power to turn that audience against them with poor quality offerings.


LOL, Nintendo has no blame right?? Third parties were big on nintendo, because there was no other alternative. nintendo constantly ignored devs, what they and the industry wanted, pushing devs away. There practices are to blame. When sony came along who fostered an environment where devs could flourish, listened to what there engines needed they left. nintendo ignoring devs over the years, made them leave nintendo, Now nintendo is seen as a system juyst for Nintendfo game sbecause it's been like it for so long. You are in denial if you think nintendo is blameless.

 

IT IS THERE JOB to make successfull platform, that gains support. Devs would be there if it made sens,e and money. Nintendo is fully to blame. Devs go where it is easiest to make money, nintendo has shun fdevs with great peril.



curl-6 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:

Because it made business sense to spend time optimising for consoles which have sold 80m. It doesnt make sense to hold back other versions to optimise a game for an old console which has sold just 8m.

The truth is even if it was fully optimised and launched on day 1, it still wouldnt sell 10%.

I understand people are passionate about having third party games on the same day as other consoles, but they should stop acting like they should be taking a hit to please certain groups.

If Wii U was PS4/Xbone spec, devs would still give it the short end of the stick because they expect games on it to flop, and in doing so, they cause the flop themselves. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

100% true but did anyone expect this title to do well on the Wii U? I honestly believe most Wii U owners on here are paying it false interest out of a desire for 3rd party support on the system. Is any real racing sim fan looking to get this game on Wii U?

Ubisoft could have seen much greater success with rayman and watchdogs had they been released on time, but I really don't think this is gonna change the trajectory for this titles performance on the Wii U. The handful of pity purchases (buying a game in hope of more support), will not amount to much sales, and I think gamers of genuine interest will be looking at the PC/PS4/XO where there will inevitably be an abundance of realistic racing games both sim and arcade.



OriginalGod said:

LOL, Nintendo has no blame right?? Third parties were big on nintendo, because there was no other alternative. nintendo constantly ignored devs, what they and the industry wanted, pushing devs away. There practices are to blame. When sony came along who fostered an environment where devs could flourish, listened to what there engines needed they left. nintendo ignoring devs over the years, made them leave nintendo, Now nintendo is seen as a system juyst for Nintendfo game sbecause it's been like it for so long. You are in denial if you think nintendo is blameless.

 

IT IS THERE JOB to make successfull platform, that gains support. Devs would be there if it made sens,e and money. Nintendo is fully to blame. Devs go where it is easiest to make money, nintendo has shun fdevs with great peril.

Third parties defeated their own chance of making money off Nintendo systems by anticipating failure before they even tried. They have trained a whole generation of Nintendo gamers to associate third party games with low quality, because that's pretty much all they ever offered.



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Yeah, it's canned.



curl-6 said:
OriginalGod said:

LOL, Nintendo has no blame right?? Third parties were big on nintendo, because there was no other alternative. nintendo constantly ignored devs, what they and the industry wanted, pushing devs away. There practices are to blame. When sony came along who fostered an environment where devs could flourish, listened to what there engines needed they left. nintendo ignoring devs over the years, made them leave nintendo, Now nintendo is seen as a system juyst for Nintendfo game sbecause it's been like it for so long. You are in denial if you think nintendo is blameless.

 

IT IS THERE JOB to make successfull platform, that gains support. Devs would be there if it made sens,e and money. Nintendo is fully to blame. Devs go where it is easiest to make money, nintendo has shun fdevs with great peril.

Third parties defeated their own chance of making money off Nintendo systems by anticipating failure before they even tried. They have trained a whole generation of Nintendo gamers to associate third party games with low quality, because that's pretty much all they ever offered.

LOL Anticipating failure??? They had several consoles to KNOW Gamecube, N64, Then wii.......On top of that the cost to make a game for nintendo systems which are weak to run next gen engines are not worth it and a hassle...Nintendo have themselves to blame period. They forced devs hands and made systems without any care what devs, the industry needed going forward. Saying nintendo is blameless is ridiculous./

 

It's there JOB to make a platform that garners support from third parties to thirive, they have not.



So if we have this in January or February 2015 hopefully sales will hop for Wii U especially if it's so graphically praised. I know a lot of people who just buy games for graphics and told them about this, say they'll buy it if it looks nice. (stupid people)



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OriginalGod said:

LOL Anticipating failure??? They had several consoles to KNOW Gamecube, N64, Then wii.......On top of that the cost to make a game for nintendo systems which are weak to run next gen engines are not worth it and a hassle...Nintendo have themselves to blame period. They forced devs hands and made systems without any care what devs, the industry needed going forward. Saying nintendo is blameless is ridiculous./

It's there JOB to make a platform that garners support from third parties to thirive, they have not.

Wii was much cheaper to develop for than PS3/360. But the industry wrongly assumed the Wii would flop, and released nothing but shovelware on it. By the time they realized their mistake it was too late for most; they had bred contempt for third parties among Nintendo gamers.



curl-6 said:
OriginalGod said:

LOL Anticipating failure??? They had several consoles to KNOW Gamecube, N64, Then wii.......On top of that the cost to make a game for nintendo systems which are weak to run next gen engines are not worth it and a hassle...Nintendo have themselves to blame period. They forced devs hands and made systems without any care what devs, the industry needed going forward. Saying nintendo is blameless is ridiculous./

It's there JOB to make a platform that garners support from third parties to thirive, they have not.

Wii was much cheaper to develop for than PS3/360. But the industry wrongly assumed the Wii would flop, and released nothing but shovelware on it. By the time they realized their mistake it was too late for most; they had bred contempt for third parties among Nintendo gamers.

Shovleware was all that would work on wii, it was a gimmick console with terrible controls...... N64 gamecube saw a huge decline in third party support and nintendo kept ignoring devs, making systems with bad online, bad dev tools, bad architecture that cannot run modenr publishers engines...They have themself to blame........................ It is not developers job to make the platform attractive, it's nintendos, nintendo failed.

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