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KLXVER said:
pokoko said:
Strange to see that the US has so many Musou fans, though. I had no idea.

I eagerly await the eventual outpouring of praise for this exciting new genre that Nintendo is creating.


You seem bitter about something...

Not in the slightest.  I find the whole hype wagon for this game to be both amusing and interesting.  I can't wait to see post-release reactions.  I'm also interested to see how much critical reception differs from other Musou games.  This could be an entertaining ride.



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DerNebel said:

We'll see, this whole Hyrule Warriors thing has shown me that Zelda fans can be a little irrational when it comes to Zelda stuff, I feel that japanese fans are a lot more levelheaded in that regard.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if this game sells way more then its scores from critics (which I believe will be mediocre at best) would make you believe it deserves in the west. I have no idea how this game will play out in Japan.

Japanese fans won't be fooled by this, that's for certain.  If they buy it, they'll know what they're getting going in.  Many western fans, however, will have no idea beyond it being another Zelda game.  I'm betting the number of Nintendo fans who've played a Musou game is pretty low.

Personally, I think Nintendo has a bit of an advertising decision to make.  If they advertise this as a straight-up Zelda game, it could do very well in the west.  However, doing so might cause some fans to be unhappy relative to their expectations.  If they highlight that it's a spin-off, I don't think it will be as effective as a system-seller.

Heck, who knows, this might lead to a breakthrough for Musou games in the west.  Maybe we could see a reskin for a Sony title in the future.



DerNebel said:

It's not in the best seller top 100 for either June nor July on Amazon. What's the point of the wishlist anyway? Aside from maybe people taking a wait and see approach with things.

I think that's definitely it. People badly want an HD Zelda, but a good proportion of fans (including myself) want to know even more about Hyrule Warriors before spending our own money. Nonetheless, even if the game does turn out to be mediocre, I think I'd get insanely excited if someone gave me this game as a gift. I don't think I'm alone in that camp. Therefore: wishlisted!

And aside from Destiny or Call of Duty, What preorders really reach into the best sellers list anyway?

I for one consider the idea of what people *want* to buy/have more intriguing than what's already been pre-ordered  (though pre-order stats are nonetheless very interesting and important). Some games are marketed to greater incentivize preorders with exclusive beta access, dlc, other free stuff etc -- but those are things that are ultimately trivial to what makes a game worth buying/playing.

  I think we at VGC get a little to locked into pre-order stats for games sometimes and too hung up on the kind of outcomes they might infer. Not to get too off-topic, but necessary to make my point: there's roughly 30k Watch Dogs Wii U pre orders -- will that sell as well as any other game with 30k preorders right  now that releases in the fall?



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pokoko said:
DerNebel said:

We'll see, this whole Hyrule Warriors thing has shown me that Zelda fans can be a little irrational when it comes to Zelda stuff, I feel that japanese fans are a lot more levelheaded in that regard.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if this game sells way more then its scores from critics (which I believe will be mediocre at best) would make you believe it deserves in the west. I have no idea how this game will play out in Japan.

Japanese fans won't be fooled by this, that's for certain.  If they buy it, they'll know what they're getting going in.  Many western fans, however, will have no idea beyond it being another Zelda game.  I'm betting the number of Nintendo fans who've played a Musou game is pretty low.

Personally, I think Nintendo has a bit of an advertising decision to make.  If they advertise this as a straight-up Zelda game, it could do very well in the west.  However, doing so might cause some fans to be unhappy relative to their expectations.  If they highlight that it's a spin-off, I don't think it will be as effective as a system-seller.

Heck, who knows, this might lead to a breakthrough for Musou games in the west.  Maybe we could see a reskin for a Sony title in the future.

I think they'll market it as a spin-off, but if the internet is to be believed then that doesn't matter as long as it has the Zelda skin. *rolls eyes*

Also, I really don't think that there is any Sony franchise were that would work, not mechanically but from an interest point of view, I just can't imagine Sony fans getting more excited for a Musou game just because it has an Uncharted skin for example, nor would it work with any other type of game, like who knows a dance game or whatever.

Not to sound arrogant here, but I think that this very easy to attain extra bit of excitement for games just because they have the characters of their favourite IPs in them is something that is pretty much exclusive to Nintendo fans.



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DerNebel said:

I think they'll market it as a spin-off, but if the internet is to be believed then that doesn't matter as long as it has the Zelda skin. *rolls eyes*

Also, I really don't think that there is any Sony franchise were that would work, not mechanically but from an interest point of view, I just can't imagine Sony fans getting more excited for a Musou game just because it has an Uncharted skin for example, nor would it work with any other type of game, like who knows a dance game or whatever.

Not to sound arrogant here, but I think that this very easy to attain extra bit of excitement for games just because they have the characters of their favourite IPs in them is something that is pretty much exclusive to Nintendo fans.

Yeah but what about....
God of War-riors!! Play as Kratos, the Olympian Gods,  other heros from Greek Mythology, and other characters from the series.

There's plenty of fans of that series that only like the game to run around and kill stuff. Come on, you know there'd be *some* Sony fans super-hyped for that. Especially if it was a Vita exclusive.

Checkmate



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fleischr said:
DerNebel said:

I think they'll market it as a spin-off, but if the internet is to be believed then that doesn't matter as long as it has the Zelda skin. *rolls eyes*

Also, I really don't think that there is any Sony franchise were that would work, not mechanically but from an interest point of view, I just can't imagine PS fans getting more excited for a Musou game just because it has an Uncharted skin for example, nor would it work with any other type of game, like who knows a dance game or whatever.

Not to sound arrogant here, but I think that this very easy to attain extra bit of excitement for games just because they have the characters of their favourite IPs in them is something that is pretty much exclusive to Nintendo fans.

Yeah but what about....
God of War-riors!! Play as Kratos, the Olympian Gods,  other heros from Greek Mythology, and other characters from the series.

There's plenty of fans of that series that only like the game to run around and kill stuff. Come on, you know there'd be *some* Sony fans super-hyped for that. Especially if it was a Vita exclusive.

Checkmate

Maybe. The point I was trying to make was more that I think it would be a lot harder to interest PS fans in a type of game that they normally don't care for, just by putting it in the skin of one of their favourite franchises, especially if the type of game is not really known for being very good.



Sorry, that was me. I've put it a few thousand times on my wishlist.



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pokoko said:
KLXVER said:
pokoko said:
Strange to see that the US has so many Musou fans, though. I had no idea.

I eagerly await the eventual outpouring of praise for this exciting new genre that Nintendo is creating.


You seem bitter about something...

Not in the slightest.  I find the whole hype wagon for this game to be both amusing and interesting.  I can't wait to see post-release reactions.  I'm also interested to see how much critical reception differs from other Musou games.  This could be an entertaining ride.

I thought you hated generalisations and people with agendas?  Yet here you are showing both.  Perhaps you only hate them when not in use by you would that be more accurate? 

Pokoko being a hypocrite, imagine that. 



I still think this will reach 1.5m quickly/lifetime.