Not as solid proof but as a voucher for my arguement. John Carmack is one of the most respected people in the gaming industry and if he says it theres a chance it would be easier for you to understand. GPGPU computation is also something that ps4 is going to be pushing which is not really heard of on pc's yet(atleast in releases).  Generally the optimization possibilities on ps4 are way beyond anything on pc. The graphics card you linked even has 10% less stream processors than the ps4 in addition to all the other pieces of spec that was just downright not as good. Battlefield 4 on ultra with AA is also on ps4 free internet sure thats a horrible thing that the ps4 shouldnt have to deal with. but then again free to play games are still free and you can still download demos and apps without having to pay for ps+. I agree it is not a good thing you need ps+ though. Regardless that pc is way underpowered compared to the ps4. I would only say the cpu is in the right area vs the ps4... and cpu is not as important in gaming anymore.

I remember a lot of hype about MGS4's visuals, but was still underwhelming. Sony fans wanted something to boast about and they chose MGS4. Bastos said it was released in 2007, but it actually released in 2008. It doesn't look better than games like Gears of War or Bioshock. Also, MGS4 looked most impressive during cutscenes.

By 2010, God of War 3's graphics just seemed kinda standard. Its the art design that was exceptional. Halo Reach was a very nice looking game released in 2010 people seem to forget. It didn't use a fixed camera either.

I feel boasting about Beyond and Heavy Rain is like boasting about a tech demo. Those graphics look impressive because they're focusing on little. However, those games start looking unimpressive in larger areas you can explore. There are some areas where the character models look poor because they're focusing on the background as well.

Simply stating false information at this point, the Order is releasing in Feburary of next year, RAM prices will be the same and no, two more graphics generations my ass, more like rebranding and a better flagship card. And if you want to use PS Plus as a negative then also factor in that over four years, you'd have gotten 96 free games for $200, less tha $3 a game, you can also EASILY find PS Plus for a year at $40 or less, or wait for sales like PC Gamers do. Also PS Plus is optional. 

And what multiplats? 

Destiny?

MGS V?

KH3?

FFXV?

Oh wait, those games aren't coming to PC, so there's that. 

Or rebranded CoD, BF, aand Assassin Creed games? Consoles get ALL major multiplats, PC doesn't. 

It'll take a considerable amount of time to build a PC that performs on paper with a PS4, and bout time that time comes the PS4 will likely have a price drop. It's not a question of raw power, it's what you do with it, hence a Titan can't run CoD Ghosts at 60fps locked, throwing raw power at things isn't always the best method. 

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Saying God of War 3 looked standard in 2010 is objectivelly wrong and blatantly lieing to yourself. I get the feeling you just don't want to give credit where it's due, or pushing an agenda or admit you're wrong. 

When I say standard, I mean with other visually impressive games. Not the standard of all games at the time.

It just looked fine to me. I didn't think they were doing anything that looked particularly amazing outside of art design.

Crysis 2/3 are impressive, Metro: Last Light is up close and The Witcher 2 is a little less impressive than these two. The original Crysis doesn't look good anymore and is considerably dated. The rest is pretty much miles worse than these ones. Some PS4 games actually look on par with these games. The new traillers for some PS4 games looks better than Crysis 3 and company, but I prefer to hold my judgement to the final product and gameplay footage.

Most games actually looks pretty bad on all platforms. Even today older games like GOW 3 looks better than even recent games. Killzone 2 still looks better than most shooters around there. The majority of games is composed of mediocre-looking titles.

It won multiple best graphics of the year awards along with a best art achievement award. 

GeForce 800 and 900 are releasing this year, and with every new GPU generation the prices of the previous (regardless of their abilities) decrease. Right now one can buy a PS4 equivalent (GeForce GTX 660) for $180 USD, with the new generation releasing its cost will likely go down at least $50. So no, it isn't false information. Ram decreases in price almost on an annual clock. So that will go down by february as well. 

Steam deals and bundles match any benefit PS Plus brings. PS Plus might have it beat in quantity, but when I can buy a great game that is 6 months old for $40 on steam and it is $60 on consoles, I don't mind that I miss out on downloadable PS releases. When within a year of an Elders Scrolls game release I can have a steam deal with DLC and buy the game for $20 I don't care too much about the free PS Plus games. Steam > PS Plus. 

Destiny - Point, not sure if I'm getting it though. It will likely come to PC eventually anyway. 

MGS V - point, but I never was a fan of the series personally, so not a big deal for me personally. 

KH3 - Won't release for years. 

FFXV - Won't release for years (and announced in 2005, I bought a PS3 for this damn game, when I was in 8th grade, now I'm a junior in college. I'm over it and Square-Enix.) 

Meanwhile PC plays the overwhelming majority of multiplatform games better than the PS4 and XboxOne, and will continue to get unique exclusives as those consoles lag behind and PC gaming continues to grow. 

I can understand those points. And they indeed make sense. It just seemed like it was nit=picking to take away from how they looked I guess. But what you said definitely makes sense to me. 

unless ur definition of medium pc costs more than £1000.

i dont know why people lie about things like that.

and most of this GTA4 mods doesnt feel natural. they look nice on screenshots but in motion it looks like shit.

i dont have a super pc but my pc is pretty good and i can run this mods well.