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Max King of the Wild said:

Oh, your cherry picking to make a point. How typical


MC and Dengeki both have Wii U over 10k, and the average of all three is over 10k...sounds like the one cherry picking is you

PS: The reason Dengeki is usually overlooked is because they release their numbers after the others do, so people generally don't care as much by then
PSS: The word "or" in the context you used it, would generally be interpreted as including both 2 and 3 weeks ago. It could be interpreted the other way, but at the end of the day, you guys are just arguing over semantics here...
PSSS: Even if you didn't say the same thing in every thread, I still frequently see you spouting negativity about the Wii U in NPD threads, Famitsu/MC threads and elsewhere. That is why these guys are criticizing you...



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sundin13 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Oh, your cherry picking to make a point. How typical


MC and Dengeki both have Wii U over 10k, and the average of all three is over 10k...sounds like the one cherry picking is you

PS: The reason Dengeki is usually overlooked is because they release their numbers after the others do, so people generally don't care as much by then
PSS: The word "or" in the context you used it, would generally be interpreted as including both 2 and 3 weeks ago. It could be interpreted the other way, but at the end of the day, you guys are just arguing over semantics here...
PSSS: Even if you didn't say the same thing in every thread, I still frequently see you spouting negativity about the Wii U in NPD threads, Famitsu/MC threads and elsewhere. That is why these guys are criticizing you...


No. Even T-bone said he ignore dengeki. No one really cares about it... except for some strange reason (lol) now.

PS: No, Famitsu and media create sometimes dont release on the same day (one gets delayed) but when it comes out people still care and talk about them

PSS: No, just no.

PSSS: So you are admitting these guys have nothing. thanks



Max King of the Wild said:

No. Even T-bone said he ignore dengeki. No one really cares about it... except for some strange reason (lol) now.

PS: No, Famitsu and media create sometimes dont release on the same day (one gets delayed) but when it comes out people still care and talk about them

PSS: No, just no.

PSSS: So you are admitting these guys have nothing. thanks


Dengeki is a good tie-breaker...thats about all it is good for. BUT either way, you accuse them of cherry picking, but unless you accept that it is over 10K on one and under 10K on the other (Famitsu/MC only), you are doing the exact same thing. Saying definitively that the Wii U is under 10k is cherry picking, plain and simple, because it is only half correct, and therefore it is very hypocritical for your to say anything about anyone else cherrypicking. 

PS: Err, that is pretty rare, I don't really think it happens enough for it to really be note worthy. I don't even know why you are arguing this. I was just trying to answer one of your questions @.@ No need to turn everything into an argument.
PSS: Actually, yes. Technically your grammar was ambiguous (You needed the word "either" in there to clarify). Saying "I didn't do this or that" typically gets interpreted as you didn't do both. On the other hand, saying "I didn't do either this or that" would be like saying there is one you didn't do, and the other you did. It is pretty ambiguous, so neither of you are really wrong in this case. Once again, no point in arguing semantics...just move on. 
PSSS: Not really...you do sound like a broken record, although some of the specific details they are arguing were incorrect (you didn't say the same thing three times in a row, you guys have already gone over that). Basically the criticism comes down to you being very vocal about your distaste for the Wii U. Once again, I don't really get why this was turned into an argument. I dont think you would deny that you don't like Wii U and I don't think anybody really cares that much...seems like a petty argument to pass the time (which coincedentally is just what I need)



sundin13 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

No. Even T-bone said he ignore dengeki. No one really cares about it... except for some strange reason (lol) now.

PS: No, Famitsu and media create sometimes dont release on the same day (one gets delayed) but when it comes out people still care and talk about them

PSS: No, just no.

PSSS: So you are admitting these guys have nothing. thanks


Dengeki is a good tie-breaker...thats about all it is good for. BUT either way, you accuse them of cherry picking, but unless you accept that it is over 10K on one and under 10K on the other (Famitsu/MC only), you are doing the exact same thing. Saying definitively that the Wii U is under 10k is cherry picking, plain and simple, because it is only half correct, and therefore it is very hypocritical for your to say anything about anyone else cherrypicking. 

PS: Err, that is pretty rare, I don't really think it happens enough for it to really be note worthy. I don't even know why you are arguing this. I was just trying to answer one of your questions @.@ No need to turn everything into an argument.
PSS: Actually, yes. Technically your grammar was ambiguous (You needed the word "either" in there to clarify). Saying "I didn't do this or that" typically gets interpreted as you didn't do both. On the other hand, saying "I didn't do either this or that" would be like saying there is one you didn't do, and the other you did. It is pretty ambiguous, so neither of you are really wrong in this case. Once again, no point in arguing semantics...just move on. 
PSSS: Not really...you do sound like a broken record, although some of the specific details they are arguing were incorrect (you didn't say the same thing three times in a row, you guys have already gone over that). Basically the criticism comes down to you being very vocal about your distaste for the Wii U. Once again, I don't really get why this was turned into an argument. I dont think you would deny that you don't like Wii U and I don't think anybody really cares that much...seems like a petty argument to pass the time (which coincedentally is just what I need)

Look at the second page. I told T-bone its the average. Look at T-bones last post. He said it was the average. He agrees with me it isn't above 10k... Im not cherry picking like the others.

PSS: No, or will always mean one, the other, possibly both. Nothing abiguous about it. Now, if I said I didn't post 2 and 3 weeks ago then I would have only needed to post in one for that statement to be wrong. Or and and are not the same. There is nothing abiguous about or. There is nothing up for translation. There is no debate over semantics.

PSSS: I would deny that lol.



I remember the good old days, when Media Create threads weren't 90% Max histrionics. Those were good times...



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noname2200 said:
I remember the good old days, when Media Create threads weren't 90% Max histrionics. Those were good times...


LOL what the fuck are you talking? Have you all taken a drink from the same water supply?



Max King of the Wild said:
noname2200 said:
I remember the good old days, when Media Create threads weren't 90% Max histrionics. Those were good times...


LOL what the fuck are you talking? Have you all taken a drink from the same water supply?


You're right, I was careless with my words: this thread is only 65% Max histrionics. I did bad, and I feel bad. *frowny face*



Max King of the Wild said:

Look at the second page. I told T-bone its the average. Look at T-bones last post. He said it was the average. He agrees with me it isn't above 10k... Im not cherry picking like the others.

PSS: No, or will always mean one, the other, possibly both.

PSSS: I would deny that lol.


Okay? I guess the great Tbone is the ultimate ruler of all things Japan sales now? I don't particularly care what he said. He is a good guy, but just because he said he didn't care about Dengeki doesn't make it meaningless. The fact is that 2/3 trackers had Wii U above 10k, and even excluding Dengeki, it is basically 10k (with the margin of error easily incapsulating 10K). Basically what I am saying, is that it isn't as cut and dry as you are making it out to be. I'm not going to argue that is wasn't under 10k, I'm just saying that you being "right" was no great victory...You barely etched out an argument for your correct-ness. It isn't quite black and white.

PSS: In informal speaking, or is often used as a way of saying both. I already gave you one example, but here is another (remember, this is informal...):

"Did you take out the dog and do the dishes?"

"I didn't take out the dog or do the dishes..."

This would generally be regarded as saying that both of those things were not done. If you still can't wrap your head around it, try reading the word "or" with extra emphasis...It is a lot easier to hear that way. However, when typing you cant convey tone, so it may be easy to miss someones intent. Therefore there was some miscomunication between you and Tbone-sama...(why are we talking about this?)

PSSS: I seeee...well then good sir, I fear you are misrepresenting yourself. You give off quite a strong "anti-Wii U" vibe, and I have trouble reading that any other way. Perhaps you could try not being a negative nancy... that may help out your image a bit. 

PSSSS: I hope you (and tbone) understand that this is all good natured ribbing and idle discussion. I'm not actually coming at you with vitriol, just killing time...



sundin13 said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Look at the second page. I told T-bone its the average. Look at T-bones last post. He said it was the average. He agrees with me it isn't above 10k... Im not cherry picking like the others.

PSS: No, or will always mean one, the other, possibly both.

PSSS: I would deny that lol.


Okay? I guess the great Tbone is the ultimate ruler of all things Japan sales now? I don't particularly care what he said. He is a good guy, but just because he said he didn't care about Dengeki doesn't make it meaningless. The fact is that 2/3 trackers had Wii U above 10k, and even excluding Dengeki, it is basically 10k (with the margin of error easily incapsulating 10K). Basically what I am saying, is that it isn't as cut and dry as you are making it out to be. I'm not going to argue that is wasn't under 10k, I'm just saying that you being "right" was no great victory...You barely etched out an argument for your correct-ness. It isn't quite black and white.

PSS: In informal speaking, or is often used as a way of saying both. I already gave you one example, but here is another (remember, this is informal...):

"Did you take out the dog and do the dishes?"

"I didn't take out the dog or do the dishes..."

This would generally be regarded as saying that both of those things were not done. If you still can't wrap your head around it, try reading the word "or" with extra emphasis...It is a lot easier to hear that way. However, when typing you cant convey tone, so it may be easy to miss someones intent. Therefore there was some miscomunication between you and Tbone-sama...(why are we talking about this?)

PSSS: I seeee...well then good sir, I fear you are misrepresenting yourself. You give off quite a strong "anti-Wii U" vibe, and I have trouble reading that any other way. Perhaps you could try not being a negative nancy... that may help out your image a bit. 

PSSSS: I hope you (and tbone) understand that this is all good natured ribbing and idle discussion. I'm not actually coming at you with vitriol, just killing time...

LOL! I wasn't asked to affirm or deny anything. There was no question. The response denies the direct question which is why it is used with or. Your analogy falls flat.

PSSS: I would argue I give off a strong anti Nintendo fan vibe. Unless we are to say bringing out Wii U flaws (such as it going to drop after MK8 and its under 10k in Japan) is considered anti Wii U



Max King of the Wild said:

LOL! I wasn't asked to affirm or deny anything. There was no question. The response denies the direct question which is why it is used with or. Your analogy falls flat.

PSSS: I would argue I give off a strong anti Nintendo fan vibe. Unless we are to say bringing out Wii U flaws (such as it going to drop after MK8 and its under 10k in Japan) is considered anti Wii U


There was a statement saying that you said the same thing three weeks in a row and you responded that you didn't comment 2 or 3 weeks ago, which means that your statement was a denial of a previous statement. My example also works without the initial question, it was just there to give some context...I am blown away by the fact that you don't see how that could be misinterpreted after clearly explaining it twice. 

PSSS: One becomes anti-Wii U 9or rather, gives off an anti-Wii U vibe) when pretty much everything that they say on the subject of the Wii U is negative. I can only make judgements using what I see, and I see a lot of negativity and pretty much nothing by the way of positivity... but thats just my opinion. Maybe you are just a very negative person overall, or you keep all your happy thoughts on a different website.