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I love shitting on Ubisoft as much as anyone, but who is this guy? Another "anonymous source."



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Yay more insiders!



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

Parity is a lame excuse for stupid decisions and laziness.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

Ubisoft is nice enough to consider the feelings of console gamers? hehe. PC master race my BEhind.



Doesn't this happen to most games? Not sure why anyone would be surprised by this.

Edit: Doesn't need to be said, but obviously these supposed "Insiders" need to just shut up.



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Ehh.... I don't think they will :)



I mean... the new consoles are weak. They always are - that's why they're 400 bucks and not 800-1200 like a upper-high-end PC with a higher-end GPU. Consoles exist to give you the same game experience as everyone else on the platform for a reasonable price.

The article kind of implies that they made the graphics look amazing, but then scaled them down for parity though, not that they just made the graphics worse right off the bat.



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MoHasanie said:

According to a source on the graphical development team for the game at Ubisoft, the E3 demo for The Division was performed on a PC. This in itself is hardly surprising, but apparently all versions of the game are being scaled back graphically, with the PC being worst hit, despite being capable of delivering the level of graphical fidelity that Ubisoft had on display in the demo.

The insider in question tells WhatIfGaming that publishers want there to be graphical parity across the current gen consoles and PC, so as to not alienate consumers into thinking their new consoles are weak. They also added that any mention of removing objects or graphics for stability is often a lie and is actually more about marketing than anything else. 

The insider's comments can be read below:

"We really loved the reception to the demo we showed on the PC version at E3. Currently as it stands, there is definitely a lot of push coming from publishers to not make the experience so different on consoles as to alienate people into thinking that next generation is not as powerful as PC. This is probably what happened at Ubisoft Montreal. I think that while making stability changes is definitely important, it does not completely obliterate a lot of enhanced rendering applications.

Right now we already took out quite a lot of screen space reflections from the game and are working on asset management the best we can given consoles have that great unified memory. Naturally we will also be using online servers and have to produce a synchronization that higher graphics add to the latency so it had to be turned down. To me it still looks good, but not as good as the original reveal. I am sure as we get closer to launch and the actual console versions of the game featuring SD (Snowdrop) that it will start to seem all too obvious to people especially those on PCs. I just wanted to write and let you know that it definitely is not just stability but marketing politics plays into this a lot as well.

UPDATED 2nd Response from The Division Developer: Truth be told in regards to your question that while ‘Yes’ the lead platform is the PC, we simply cannot have such a big gap. As you know when the first WATCH DOGS Review was published by that one site, Ubisoft called it a “false review” and I am sure everyone can see how bad that sounded when they saw the game did look marginally better than something that was a last generation GTA IV. But no, they will not admit that they practice this or actively downgrade a game. It is much easier to say they removed things for stability which is often a lie as you can tell by the post-issues which are expected in any production we do.

Also to answer your 3rd question, no…they will never fully disclose what was removed from what build as no laws ask them to do so in terms of consumer rights. If we as developers published that information in very real terms for the consumer such as “Replaced particle fog simulation with 2d layer simulation in 3d space, removed particles from all explosions, lowered explosion volume multiplier by 20x, removed X # of trees and civilians, etc.” we would be out of a lot of sales and probably it would actually require too much time to deliver on the current hype that a lot of downgraded games see which look incredible with a vertical slice. I do share this in the hope’s that my colleagues and publishers and a lot of people who make false promises and do demonstrations which wrongfully create too much hype that they cannot deliver on ultimately stop doing such things. I want to see the industry actually move forward and not be so full of itself by promising too much and delivering too little. Regards"

http://www.gamrreview.com/news/91692/rumour-the-divisions-graphics-downgraded-for-console-parity/

Money talks.....



Its like Ubisoft wanted to be more hated than EA. At least EA does not shaft PC gamers when it comes to the visuals. Mainly DICE.



I dont even know where to begin with how angry i am with the lack of respect for the consumer.