Read the Manga, its amazing.

I'm supposed to be satisfied when they tack on a new region, add more pokemon, new moves and new "mechanics"? I'm supposed to be impressed by Sky Battles, Triple Battles, Double Battles, The fucking beauty contest? How about actually improve on the core gameplay for once instead of adding new sparkles to it.

At the core the battle system has been the same since 1996.

GameFreak will never change the mainline series, and I am fine with that, I accepted that a long time ago. Pokemon is a cash cow and they will never change the formula for fear of losing customers.

My issue is that with the Console games or the side games in general, they will simply stick their foot into the water and when they leave the game out to die they'll abandon it or worse they'll release the game as glorified advertisements. 

The meta game argument and competive argument are pointless, people still buy Gamecube Controllers purely for Smash, and regardless of how many times they still try to change that mods will be made Project M to return it to the Melee perfection, but that is besides the point. A good game will adapt a new metagame, if people don't like it they can play pokemon on handhelds, we're talking about a homeconsole pokemon.

They've literally done new region, new pookemon, new moves, new mechanics, every frikken generation, Mega Evolutions and Sky Battles are evidence enough and the X Y naming convention is evidence enough that they are running out of ideas.

But I don't care, why don't they take the series serious for a change and really go outside of the box, Gale of Darkness was so close but it still was just a collesium clone, which is just a clone of the handheld games replacing RPG elements for 3D.

Last time I checked Pokemon isn't a MMO, why would I just be satisfied with new content if the system hasn't adapted to tech that we have today.

The Wii U could easily handle a pokemon RPG with ABS, a story that actually had a writing team on it, some development of the hundreds of pokemon.

But GameFreak doesn't care about the game they care about the money.

Ultimately, the mainline series is a lost cause. That's why for the homeconsole they should actually try to make a decent game that for once, what do they have to lose on the WIi U's install base?

The pokemon battle system, and battle systems in general are meant to simulate how the battle would work.

Yes, Pokemon are issued orders, even in the Manga, pokemon who are deafeaned can't follow their trainers orders.

But isn't using a controller just sending orders to the character your playing on screen?

The only difference between selecting Cut from a menu and pressing the x button to Cut is that if you want the pokemon to strafe to the left than you can do that.

And on your last point, enough people share this belief that actual projects are getting kickstarted and developed, and as Melee proved, it is possible to get Nintendo to listen, skipping GameFreak entirely.

The core gameplay doesn't need to change. There isn't a single thing wrong with turn-based battles.

You're approaching this from entirely the wrong angle. The game you want is not in any way shape or form a Pokemon game. You don't want to play Pokemon. Fine, don't play Pokemon. But don't pretend you want a Pokemon game while describing something that is not a Pokemon game, and still worse, don't pretend Game Freak is lazy or incompetent for not making Pokemon into something it's not.

Your train of thought is horrendous. "Pokemon should be on home consoles" > "Skyrim is a home console RPG" > "Pokemon should play like Skyrim"

Could you imagine if I said Mario should have online multiplayer, therefore it should play like Call of Duty? That's the sort of logic I read in this thread.

You don't seem to get it.

I don't care about the mainline games. I'm talking about the spin off games. If you weren't already aware they already have deviated from the formula. Pokemon Ranger, Poke Park, Pokemon Rumble, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, those are all official franchise that have deviated hugely from the formula. Compared to those an ABS with the 4 moves mapped to 4 buttons is basically nothing.

The pokemon games are clearly not defined by their battle system, to say Pokemon without turnbased battle system is the same as saying that Super Mario 64 isn't a mario game because the mario games precceding it were 2D platformers.

I never said GameFreak was Lazy or incompetent, I said they are greedy and afraid of change, they consistently make as little change as possible and then remake their old games in the new engines. The Different versions of Pokemon used to actually mean something, now its just a new legendary with a different colored box.

I never mentioned Skyrim at all and if you actually played Skyrim, you would know that the battle system in Skyrim is completely different than what I described.

Its hilarious that you mention COD when this series is basically the COD of handhelds basically unchanged for 17 years. 

Why is Pokemon with ABS now Skyrim? is Mario with Cars now Gran Turismo? Is Metroid in 3D now Halo?

Your whole post is filled with worthless assumptions about what I want and what I'm describing:

I never said I didn't like Turn Based Battle systems, my favorite Mario Series is Paper Mario and I literally made a thread about how Child of Light was a great game barely 3 days ago.

I never said I don't play Pokemon, the only one I bought was Ruby, not because I didn't like pokemon, my issue with the series started way before that, but simply because I never got a handheld device after the GBASP.

I never called GameFreak Lazy or Incomptent, I called them greedy, and that is evident in its marketting and how they handle pokemon.

READ THE FUCKING TITLE, there is your answer on the discussion of whether or not I want a homeconsole pokemon

I never mentioned Skyrim, which is completely unlike anything I described.

Pick one. Does Game Freak fail to innovate within the series or have they deviated from the core concept in the spin-off games?

There are WAY more differences between X and Y than there were between Red and Blue or Gold and Silver.

The point is that there are a lot of different Pokemon games, and just because they haven't made a game that matches your imaginary dream game doesn't mean Game Freak is afraid to take risks. It means they don't want to make that game. And I don't particularly want them to, since it sounds nothing at all like a Pokemon game.

Versions =/= Spin Off

Versions refer to the games editions, hence the description of legendaries, the different boxes, Etc, the games on the consoles are all spinoffs in fact.

Spin Offs are different franchises spawned from the mainline series.

There had better be differences between X and Y(2013) and Red(1996).

Regardless, you don't seem to get that the entire point of this thread is to describe a new homeconsole pokemon, not one that already fucking exists why would that be on topic here, even the thread title says it, who cares what the fuck you want, this is my opinion and my suggestion, and you have no right to attack it on the basis that you simply disagree with it.

You can mindlessly defend GameFreak all you want, but there are clear examples of them being afraid to change and fans simply taking it into there own hands, At least two Pokemons with ABS I know are in development, Pokemon Generations and Pokemon NXT, PokeMMO while buggy is filling a need that GameFreak doesn't care about. 

Most of the changes to the mainline game are cosmetic, the few mechanical changes simply extension of the simple hardware limited system they had in 1996.

BUT I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THE MAINLINE SERIES, Is the point you seem to constantly be ignoring, the entire topic of this thread is to discuss what you would want to see in a spinoff home console game.

Now you wish to attack me, because I want an ABS, ignorantly claiming that what I want is no longer a pokemon game, conveintly ignoring the fact that you said Pokemon Games must be turned based because that is pokemon while Pokemon SNAP was on the fucking 64?

I'm supposed to be content with New Content they've been shelling out for 17 years when the original hardware limitations that forced the game to be the way it was designed in the first place have long since been gone? I'm sorry I'm not a content consumer like you are, that I am actually intrested in a different style of play, WHICH IS WHAT A SPIN OFF is.

If you aren't aware of the money that Game Freak makes off of pokemon, that has kept them from deviating from the formula for 17 years, you are just being ignorant of it.

Go ahead, define what a Pokemon Game is, describe the differences from Red to X that the series has undergone, please indulge me.

I want a 3DS adapter for wii U.
i remember i had a super game boy, an adapter for gameboy for snes. i liked it.
the game like is in the handheld is what i want.

i hope in next gen there will be something like that.

I'm just wondering how a Roselia vs. Wailord battle would play out in a real-time battle sequence. I don't know if there is a programmer in the world who can make that look fluid.

I would like to get rid of the turn based system or at least create an illusion of it not being there like ni no kuni did. I want the camera to be in 3rd person both in combat and outside. Splitscreen coop would suit this game very well.