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Pristine20 on 18 June 2014

I don't think more Wii U's is necessarily the answer. Wii had a crapton of sales but didn't sell most 3rd party games regardless. Nintendo fans just don't want any 3rd party game besides the dancing one. It seems like most of these folks will only buy a game with "nintendo's seal of quality" xD.

Some will say it's because they don't like "dudebro" games but even a Japanocentric title like Tales of Graces did much better on PS3 than Wii despite the PS3 version coming much later and having a much smaller base to sell to at the time.

Conclusion: Nintendo fans don't want 3rd party games so why bother. They complain of them being nonexistent but won't buy them if they did exist. That what it seems like anyway.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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amak11 on 18 June 2014
Pristine20 said:
I don't think more Wii U's is necessarily the answer. Wii had a crapton of sales but didn't sell most 3rd party games regardless. Nintendo fans just don't want any 3rd party game besides the dancing one. It seems like most of these folks will only buy a game with "nintendo's seal of quality" xD.

Some will say it's because they don't like "dudebro" games but even a Japanocentric title like Tales of Graces did much better on PS3 than Wii despite the PS3 version coming much later and having a much smaller base to sell to at the time.

Conclusion: Nintendo fans don't want 3rd party games so why bother. They complain of them being nonexistent but won't buy them if they did exist. That what it seems like anyway.


Nintendo fans want 3rd party, completely wrong assumption. They just want them not to be half-ass versions of lesser console versions. 



Arcturus on 18 June 2014
amak11 said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't think more Wii U's is necessarily the answer. Wii had a crapton of sales but didn't sell most 3rd party games regardless. Nintendo fans just don't want any 3rd party game besides the dancing one. It seems like most of these folks will only buy a game with "nintendo's seal of quality" xD.

Some will say it's because they don't like "dudebro" games but even a Japanocentric title like Tales of Graces did much better on PS3 than Wii despite the PS3 version coming much later and having a much smaller base to sell to at the time.

Conclusion: Nintendo fans don't want 3rd party games so why bother. They complain of them being nonexistent but won't buy them if they did exist. That what it seems like anyway.


Nintendo fans want 3rd party, completely wrong assumption. They just want them not to be half-ass versions of lesser console versions. 

Then why didn't they buy Assassin's Creed 4?



Gintoki on 18 June 2014
jlmurph2 said:
Gintoki said:
Their argument is flawed as fuck, are they giving up the Xbox One while it's currently in third place ? Nope. Of course they go on thinking they can sell better on One than on Wii U, but they're to blame on Wii U, they delay games, say craps, and then complaint. If they just released games same time and with a decent advertisement too it would sell better, but now it is too late, they somehow pissed most people on Wii U even if the Wii U performs well, Ubi's game aside from Just Dance have little chances to perform good.


Ubisoft games actually sell on Xbox One. Wii U owners only care about Nintendo/exclusive games.


They sell I know, hence I mentionned it, but it could sell better on Wii U. Nah Wii U owners want third party support. I want games other than Nintendo, in fact, Mario Kart 8 is the only Nintendo game I own on Wii U, rest is third party, Sonic LW, MH3U, ACIII(oh a Ubi game!), Rayman Legends(another!), Zombi U(well fuck, I've more Ubisoft games than Nintendo games)



AZWification on 18 June 2014
S.Peelman said:
The only thing interesting out of that for me was:

We also have another game on the shelves that we expect to come at some point when there will be more machines (..)"

They have another game for us? What could it be, Assassin's Creed Unity after all? Or something new?

Anyway, Ubisoft remains on my good side without effort, I don't know what a lot of you are whining about. At least they try, they see the good side of things and they support without question while bringing good content. They aren't however prepared to bleed money for no reason and nobody should fault them for that. Everyone knows third party games like this would sell less on WiiU than Xbox regardless so that comparison is also pretty flawed.

I just hope they develop a new Anno sooner rather than later. Maybe even a good Prince of Persia.

Another WiiU exclusive Raving Rabbids game!



                
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amak11 on 18 June 2014
Arcturus said:
amak11 said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't think more Wii U's is necessarily the answer. Wii had a crapton of sales but didn't sell most 3rd party games regardless. Nintendo fans just don't want any 3rd party game besides the dancing one. It seems like most of these folks will only buy a game with "nintendo's seal of quality" xD.

Some will say it's because they don't like "dudebro" games but even a Japanocentric title like Tales of Graces did much better on PS3 than Wii despite the PS3 version coming much later and having a much smaller base to sell to at the time.

Conclusion: Nintendo fans don't want 3rd party games so why bother. They complain of them being nonexistent but won't buy them if they did exist. That what it seems like anyway.


Nintendo fans want 3rd party, completely wrong assumption. They just want them not to be half-ass versions of lesser console versions. 

Then why didn't they buy Assassin's Creed 4?

>Then why didn't they buy Assassin's Creed 4 

When on a stats site and you are oblivious to the facts that say 0.18m units (one of which is mine) says a lot to the credibility of your post. It was the first 3rd party port and a poor one at that (no DLC, come on). Hell even CoD:Ghost did .16m units.  The market is there, devs need to get the thumbs from their asses and support the console better if not as well as the indies do (which is pretty damn well)



S.Peelman on 18 June 2014
AZWification said:

Another WiiU exclusive Raving Rabbids game!

Heh. That would be pretty pointless .



Pristine20 on 18 June 2014
amak11 said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't think more Wii U's is necessarily the answer. Wii had a crapton of sales but didn't sell most 3rd party games regardless. Nintendo fans just don't want any 3rd party game besides the dancing one. It seems like most of these folks will only buy a game with "nintendo's seal of quality" xD.

Some will say it's because they don't like "dudebro" games but even a Japanocentric title like Tales of Graces did much better on PS3 than Wii despite the PS3 version coming much later and having a much smaller base to sell to at the time.

Conclusion: Nintendo fans don't want 3rd party games so why bother. They complain of them being nonexistent but won't buy them if they did exist. That what it seems like anyway.


Nintendo fans want 3rd party, completely wrong assumption. They just want them not to be half-ass versions of lesser console versions. 

Blame almighty nintendo for making a weak console with terrible networking functionality to cut corners. How can it's titles compete with  the xb1/ps4 versions? Even games where the wii U version is much better like say Tekken Tag 2, they still won't buy so yeah, my assumption is much more logical than yours.

Lastly, how do you explain why Tales of Graces sold terribly on Wii relative to ps3? What's the excuse for that one? I'll wait...



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

AZWification on 18 June 2014
S.Peelman said:
AZWification said:

Another WiiU exclusive Raving Rabbids game!

That would be pretty pointless .

And that's why Ubisoft might actually do it!



                
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Jay70sgamer on 18 June 2014
Arcturus said:
fedfed said:
Sorry guys isn't the X1 performing worst than WiiU?
i mean isn't the market performing very badly overall?

Even though there are less Xbox One consoles on the market compared to Wii U consoles, Ubisoft's games still sell much better on Xbox One. For example, AC4 sold 0.79M on XOne versus 0.18 on WiiU.

I agree with your graph ..but put a graph of child of light,raymans legend and just dance 2014 and it will tell a different story than this graph as with the right type of games and right marketing wii u can sell on third parties ...just saying