Well, like you said in the op, nintendo and sony do the same thing. I woukd also argue that it really isnt to a lesser degree like you say.

Also, threads like this dont fly around here. You may not be trying to troll, but threads like these are prime set ups for some serious flame bait.

Right. Not sure what we are supposed to say to pure vitriol from an admitted anti-MS "troll for hits" type of poster. That is what you said you are in your introduction thread, yes?

In that advertisement you're upset about, I also thought it was kind of stupid that they were showing Kinect features and then showing the Kinectless price, but they do multiple times in the video point out that voice features require Kinect, that it is sold seperately, and isn't available until later this year. You're just showing how ridiculous your bias is by reaching like this.

I only got a fraction of the way into the article you linked, but it's no better. They are crying about PR and talking up the power of a console. Are you going to tell us Sony never has dumb PR? I mean, did it destroy the industry when Jack Tretton offered to pay over $1,000 for any PS3 that could be found on a shelf? When Kenny K opened his fat mouth to say any of the many many many many stupid things he had to say about the power of the PS3, did the gaming industry ever recover? I think it did. So to say MS is trying to ruin the industry or whatever from these two things (and whatever else they said that is sure to be equally lulz) is just plain fucking dumb.

Agreed. And unless you're called rolstoppable, this topic will get locked very fast and be happy if you're not banned in the proces. Just ask a mod to lock it, OP.

They all lie but people still buy thete consoles

"MS has recently pulled a copycat of the Sony strategy in multiple ways. Games with Gold=PS Plus instant game collection. No more subscription needed for apps, just like PS Plus. $399 console, just like PS4."

How dare Microsoft copy Sony! Those evil bastards! Sony hasn't copied anyone at all? Rigth?

Should we go through the copy cat that Sony has pulled.

Or how about the same company who did the "share with your friends video" is also the same and only console maker company to have online passes for their 1st party games.

Or how about how the PS Plus came about? You know how PSN was hacked so bad that Sony had to offer free games.

What's bad about that?

While you might have pointed out some of MS's shortcomings as far as Consoles go, I am not sure they would lose the trust of someone who "trusted" the company.

The biggest question is though, did they lose your trust or were they just never able to gain it? I am not sure about you, but it is much harder to earn my trust, than it is to lose it.

I once left my wallet on top of my computer case.  When I came back, my credit cards and all my money were gone.  It was a Windows XP OS.  =l

Look, if you are going to make a "trollish" article you might as well refrain from diverting the guilt away.

Sentences like: "This is not meant to troll or incite anger from Xbox fans in a trollish way." further prove that your thread is being created with the purpose of trolling. You should be more careful when creating these kind of threads, you are going to get banned one of these days.