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sethnintendo on 10 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:
RolStoppable said:

I did a Google search and the only things that came up and qualify as console failures are the Wii Remote wrist strap you linked to earlier (laughable in its premise and already solved by Nintendo at the time) and a Wii U Gamepad rattle thing (nothing came out of that either; okay, I didn't read it, I just assume nothing happened). Afterwards I googled the definition of "substantial" and got confirmed that I was using the word I meant to use.

I never said you were misusing the word. Probably still doin't understand what it means tho. The Wii mote alone was substantial it affected a lot of people and cost them a lot of money. Don't fool yourself it was substantial.

Wiimote throwing into TVs were the fault of the user.  I am 100% sure they probably didn't use the wrist strap properly (or at all) and eventually Nintendo released the Wiimote sleeves (condoms) for extra grip.  It is the users fault if they throw a remote into the TV due to them not using the wrist straps. 

As for the Wii U gamepad rattling?  Sure it does (I found out that it is the abxy buttons that rattle when shaking just like the 3DS buttons rattle when shaking).  Is it a big deal?  Not really but it is a minor distraction to most people.  You have to shake it kind of hard and for games like MK8 you can just hit the L trigger button when going over jumps to get the minor boost instead of shaking the gamepad.

You are grasping at straws.



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Garland on 10 June 2014

I definitely agree with this. A poster from NeoGAF sums up Microsoft as a whole in the gaming industry very well:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=111818875&postcount=343



arachnid15 on 10 June 2014

Well I am not of the mind to trust corporations so Microsoft is no different. I did not realize that was even a thing.



Nicklesbe on 10 June 2014
sethnintendo said:
Nicklesbe said:
RolStoppable said:

I did a Google search and the only things that came up and qualify as console failures are the Wii Remote wrist strap you linked to earlier (laughable in its premise and already solved by Nintendo at the time) and a Wii U Gamepad rattle thing (nothing came out of that either; okay, I didn't read it, I just assume nothing happened). Afterwards I googled the definition of "substantial" and got confirmed that I was using the word I meant to use.

I never said you were misusing the word. Probably still doin't understand what it means tho. The Wii mote alone was substantial it affected a lot of people and cost them a lot of money. Don't fool yourself it was substantial.

Wiimote throwing into TVs were the fault of the user.  I am 100% sure they probably didn't use the wrist strap properly (or at all) and eventually Nintendo released the Wiimote sleeves (condoms) for extra grip.  It is the users fault if they throw a remote into the TV due to them not using the wrist straps. 

As for the Wii U gamepad rattling?  Sure it does (I found out that it is the abxy buttons that rattle when shaking just like the 3DS buttons rattle when shaking).  Is it a big deal?  Not really but it is a minor distraction to most people.  You have to shake it kind of hard and for games like MK8 you can just hit the L trigger button when going over jumps to get the minor boost instead of shaking the gamepad.

You are grasping at straws.

If you bothered reading any of it you'd know the straps broke. It affected a lot of people and cost Nintendo a substantial amount of grief and money. It was so substantial that it forced them to produce the "condoms". I'm not grasping at straws, I'm afraid the only one doing that is you. First you said it was "Only Sony" when that was proven wrong you grasped at straws saying "you forgot" and it wasn't "substantial" even tho it affected an alarming amount  of people and cost them a lot of money and forced them to release a new product to try and prevent it. You even blatantly lied and claimed you initially found nothing when searching on google.  I've shown you facts and you choose to deny reality and spout bullshit. Even now you continue with fallacies, delusion, and denialism.



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sethnintendo on 10 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:
sethnintendo said:

Wiimote throwing into TVs were the fault of the user.  I am 100% sure they probably didn't use the wrist strap properly (or at all) and eventually Nintendo released the Wiimote sleeves (condoms) for extra grip.  It is the users fault if they throw a remote into the TV due to them not using the wrist straps. 

As for the Wii U gamepad rattling?  Sure it does (I found out that it is the abxy buttons that rattle when shaking just like the 3DS buttons rattle when shaking).  Is it a big deal?  Not really but it is a minor distraction to most people.  You have to shake it kind of hard and for games like MK8 you can just hit the L trigger button when going over jumps to get the minor boost instead of shaking the gamepad.

You are grasping at straws.

If you bothered reading any of it you'd know the straps broke. It affected a lot of people and cost Nintendo a substantial amount of grief and money. It was so substantial that it forced them to produce the "condoms". I'm not grasping at straws, I'm afraid the only one doing that is you. First you said it was "Only Sony" when that was proven wrong you grasped at straws saying "you forgot" and it wasn't "substantial" even tho it affected an alarming amount  of people and cost them a lot of money and forced them to release a new product to try and prevent it. You even blatantly lied and claimed you initially found nothing when searching on google.  I've shown you facts and you choose to deny reality and spout bullshit. Even now you continue with fallacies, delusion, and denialism.


I didn't say shit about Sony.  So I don't know what the fuck you are talking about there.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wiiplay.jsp

Okay, I found the link.  Seems like they corrected the problem pretty damn quick (I didn't buy a Wii at launch).  So the wrist strap broke in some instances...  I still blame users because they can't hold onto a controller.



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plip.plop on 10 June 2014

For a company (Sony)that is so beloved, why the hell do they have such a horrible financial record. The Games division (specifically PS4 and 3) is the only sector outside of Japan turning a profit.
Please explain to me why the Vita is so toxic to gamers? And why doesn't anybody support their mobile division? They have decided to leave the North American mobile phone market, and are now worried in Japan because the largest cell provider is going to start carrying iPhones.



Nicklesbe on 10 June 2014
sethnintendo said:
Nicklesbe said:
sethnintendo said:

Wiimote throwing into TVs were the fault of the user.  I am 100% sure they probably didn't use the wrist strap properly (or at all) and eventually Nintendo released the Wiimote sleeves (condoms) for extra grip.  It is the users fault if they throw a remote into the TV due to them not using the wrist straps. 

As for the Wii U gamepad rattling?  Sure it does (I found out that it is the abxy buttons that rattle when shaking just like the 3DS buttons rattle when shaking).  Is it a big deal?  Not really but it is a minor distraction to most people.  You have to shake it kind of hard and for games like MK8 you can just hit the L trigger button when going over jumps to get the minor boost instead of shaking the gamepad.

You are grasping at straws.

If you bothered reading any of it you'd know the straps broke. It affected a lot of people and cost Nintendo a substantial amount of grief and money. It was so substantial that it forced them to produce the "condoms". I'm not grasping at straws, I'm afraid the only one doing that is you. First you said it was "Only Sony" when that was proven wrong you grasped at straws saying "you forgot" and it wasn't "substantial" even tho it affected an alarming amount  of people and cost them a lot of money and forced them to release a new product to try and prevent it. You even blatantly lied and claimed you initially found nothing when searching on google.  I've shown you facts and you choose to deny reality and spout bullshit. Even now you continue with fallacies, delusion, and denialism.


I didn't say shit about Sony.  So I don't know what the fuck you are talking about there.

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wiiplay.jsp

Okay, I found the link.  Seems like they corrected the problem pretty damn quickly (I didn't buy a Wii at launch).  So the wrist strap broke in some instances...  I still blame users because they can't hold onto a controller.

My apologies, you were spouting the same nonsense in the same fashion so I simply assumed you were the same person. I was wrong to make that assumption. However I was not wrong about it being substantial and I was hardly grasping at straws. Saying it wasn't substantial however is.



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sethnintendo on 10 June 2014
Nicklesbe said:

My apologies, you were spouting the same nonsense in the same fashion so I simply assumed you were the same person. I was wrong to make that assumption. However I was not wrong about it being substantial and I was hardly grasping at straws. Saying it wasn't substantial however is.

Yes, someone losing their LCD TV back in 2006 would be devastating.  I would be pissed and if the wrist strap broke then I would expect Nintendo to pay for damages (not sure if they ever did).  Maybe I put too much blame on user (you really have to flail the controller around more than needed to have it fly out of your hand). 

According to the link

"NOTE: The following wrist strap replacement information applies to certain Wii video game systems and individually sold Wii Remotes purchased before December 31st, 2006."

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/wiiplay.jsp

So it appears they were aware of the problem by then and corrected it just after launch.  Took them no more than two months to rectify the problem.  Same can't be said about Microsoft's response to RROD.  I will admit that you do have a case with the launch defective wrist straps.



jonathanalis on 10 June 2014

Im well informed, i know what im buying.

As long they have the games i want, ill buy their console to play them.



sethnintendo on 10 June 2014
jonathanalis said:
Im well informed, i know what im buying.

As long they have the games i want, ill buy their console to play them.


I'm surprised they never made another Crimson Skies.  That is the only exclusive game on xbox that I was ever jealous of (I suppose I could buy it on PC).