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Ka-pi96 said:
plip.plop said:
Another reason is misinformation. I was in a Gamespot, and one of the employee's told a mother trying to figure out which system to buy that all the games on the PS4 were 1080p, and that the Xbox1 games were 720p. He also brought up paywalls, free games on the PS4, and the DRM policy that he said was going to come back on the Xbox1 .


It's pretty pathetic that people in stores like that would purposely lie about consoles in order to sell one over the other

And then the mother asked: "What are those peas and how many is enough?", "What are paywalls?", and of course "WTF is DRM, LOL?"

I'm pretty sure that in the end mother picked the cheaper system of the two...



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Ka-pi96 said:
BeElite said:

what makes you think its lies.

idiots work at these places, they read a few times PS4 game is 1080 and X1 720 and they figure its the same for all.  Everyone knows MS E3 drm mega flop, but the 180 made far less news then the initial fuck up.  The stench of that e3 disaster is still ripe, MS has yet to recify it and honestly nothing will.  For the whole of the gen MS will be known as the ones that tried to fuck over gamers.


Well them saying the DRM policies will come back is lie, there is no way they could know for sure. Besides there are other reports of staff doing stuff like this and some of the stuff said is clearly them lieing in order to sell more of their preferred console.

Besides stating things like that without checking if it's actually true or not is highly unprofessional.

People have their preferences,Imo i in good concience could never sale a x1 over PS4, they would have to pay me good to utter enough lies to sale that.

Still lol unprofessional, wtf are you expecting from people working thsoe places ? your not buying a $2k cognac.



Give it time, and all past policies are forgiven. Why do people keep forgetting about Sony's past DRM policies. I think alot of people are to young on these sites to even know How many times Sony has tried to incorporate DRM, or their constant barrage of proprietary storage.



dane007 said:
Nicklesbe said:
Dernebel pretty much hit the nail on the head. However there is one more aspect. That is people want the best console version possible performance wise and the ps4 gave them that. The Xb1 version was pretty much exactly the same as the ps3 version so when comparing the two there was only one that stood apart and that was the ps4 version.


Thats not correct. according to DF : We've previously covered console performance and have little else to add - Watch Dogs is a pretty solid title on PS4, adopting a 30fps frame-rate cap and utilising adaptive v-sync when the engine fails to complete rendering the next frame in the allotted 33ms window. By and large, gameplay remains at the target frame-rate with few deviations beneath - the exception being packed scenes with lots of cars and explosions. Xbox One operates on much the same level - the difference being occasionally more noticeable screen-tear that occurs a little more frequently. Unlike the PS4 version, tearing can also infiltrate cut-scenes and general driving too, though it is rare. 

this for the ps3 version : Unfortunately, even with all these nips and tucks Watch Dogs simply doesn't run well on the PS3. It's a constant tussle for 30fps that rarely resolves itself successfully, and instead the game tends to flatten out at the 20fps line during our tests. This makes for some truly choppy visual feedback that makes handling cars in rapid pursuits feel off-kilter.

On top of that, we're looking at extreme levels of screen-tear for the PS3 release. It's among the most noticeable and constant offenders we've seen in this generation - a real blight on daytime scenes especially, where the artefact can easily be caught on long skyscraper outlines.  . Xbox one si no where and not even close to being as bad as ps3 version. i got it on xbox one  an dmy older brother got it on ps4  and they book similar and perform simialr. xbox one has  slightly more screen tear which rarely happens

Just because you say its wrong, doesn't mean it's wrong especially when you've never actually seen it on ps3. I've seen just as much tearing and fps issues and both are just 720p. Playing both on a large screen there is really no noticible difference between the two. Where as if you compare either to the ps4 there is noticible difference. I base that judgment off personal experiance and what I've actually seen with my own eyes. Now you can take other people's word for it and you can base your judgement on that without ever truly experiancing it but ya can't sit here and tell me my opinion is wrong when it's based on actual experiance with it on both xb1 and ps3 side by side. Apparently a lot of other people share that opinion hence the large boost in sales for ps4. Meanwhile others are so desperate to blindly defend Xb1 that they will say just about anything whether it's true or provable or not. Yeah Xb1 is slightly better than the ps3 version but you are kidding yourself if you think it looks more like the ps4 version than the ps3 version especially when it has many of the same issues as ps3. 



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"And the thing is XB1 and Wii U should both be crushing PS4 because they both have better exclusives than PS4 does".

8 million people disagree with you.



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DarkRPGamer007 said:

Seriosuly what is up with that? The PS4 leaped in sales but the XB1 barely hopped. Last week sales:

PS4 122,942 (+1%) 7,877,802
3DS 80,755 (-3%) 42,966,474
PS3 41,532 (-0%) 82,021,823
XOne 41,174 (+1%) 4,486,970
WiiU 31,777 (+12%) 6,103,913
PSV 29,113 (+5%) 8,268,043
X360 24,836 (-3%) 80,802,929
PSP 10,772 (-0%) 80,601,494
Wii 8,763 (+7%) 100,661,966

This week sales:

PS4 201,630 (+64%) 8,079,432
WiiU 187,028 (+489%) 6,290,941
3DS 78,397 (-3%) 43,044,871
XOne 52,180 (+27%) 4,539,150
PS3 39,869 (-4%) 82,061,692
PSV 27,487 (-6%) 8,295,530
X360 26,078 (+5%) 80,829,007
PSP 11,003 (+2%) 80,612,497
Wii 7,681 (-12%) 100,669,647

XB1 only went up 27% while PS4 jumped 54%. And the thing is XB1 and Wii U should both be crushing PS4 because they both have better exclusives than PS4 does. Even Wii U I get not selling as much because of the huge drought last year but that's done now. XB1 literally has the same games as PS4 just that it has better exclusives. And then Wii U did have the largest jump but still didn't beat the PS4. I think it will next week

Ohh boy



Scisca said:
dane007 said:

max is still MS xbox one console exclsives. i did say i  have personal bias towards indies as to me indeis games are not real games . he asked for big MS exlcusive and i considered Max to be a big platformer exclusive to xbox one.  The game i s also available on 360.   If you count Indies along with AAA exclusives then yea ps4 wins but if you just count AAA first party exclusivess,, then atm in my opinion xbox one is in th eleas. that may change in the futre when more games come out. 


You know what your problem is? You don't take into account that all the exclusive games released thus far on XO or PS4 are worth shit and people know it. Yeah, that is the truth. These games are shit (Titanfall? Seriously?) and will be seen as such in two years time. Not a single one of them will be looked upon as a great game in a year or two. Wii U is the only console with good exclusives that will still be considered great, but then again - it's older and already has tier 2 games and not such launch window games. Still, why doesn't it matter at all? Let's say that XO has a slight edge over PS4 in exclusives department right now (though IMO ISS is the best exculsive thus far, but I'm a sucker for such TPP games). Why doesn't it matter? Cause you don't buy a console for what it's got for launch, but for years to come! And what future is there in store for our consoles? Let's break it down.

Wii U - awesome but extreemely scarce 1st party games, and next to no 3rd party games, which will be watered down either way;

XO - a few good 1st party games, multiplats noticably inferior to the PS4 versions;

PS4 - 1st party games better than XO's (there are generations of track record that make this a certainty, MS can't touch Sony's first party offering in the long run), the best versions of multiplat games, it will get all the Japanese games that won't even come close to XO;

Now do you start to understand? People don't buy consoles only to play what's already out. We buy them to play the stuff that's coming and the future is the brightest for PS4, there is no chance that XO or Wii U can suddenly change that. The mistakes made by N and MS in the desing phase will haunt them till the end of this gen, on the other Sony will reap the benefits of designing a flawless console.

You may prefer playing WD on XO - fine, but I would never buy it on XO, when on PS4 I get a better looking game and extra content. To me it's obvious and I bet most people prefer to get the most out of their purchases - PS4 allows us to get just that. Buying a game on XO you know you are getting less than you get if you choose the box with a blue logo. That matters and this won't change in the future. Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4.

I would glady take Titanfall over KZ  . i got both and the smoothness you get with titanfall make it hard to go back to kz in my opinion. KZ game is still fun to play in terms of single player campaign. Well based on what games was available at launch ,, i chose and bought XO first before i got PS4.  For me future doesn't matter as i get all eventually. but i know for most budget gamers ,, they would pick a console with games that like or games that htey know will come to a specific consoles. 
Can't comment on WII U as i haven't purchased it yet.  Thats opinion and great that you prefer sony first party exclusives over XO.  I prefer  Xo exclusives more but both have good exclusives like ISS which for me is the best first Party AAA on ps4  . XO will get japanese games much like 360 did. X360 did get japanese games that ps3 didn't get either and both had japanese games that came on both platforms. so don't know what you are talking about.  they were recent news of XO getting three japanese exclusives and one to be announced in the upcoming E3. WD looks similar on oth consoles. Even DF did the analysis.  me an my brother got copies of the game and they look identical.( i got XO and he got PS4) The only difference is the small resolution boost, slightly  more screen tearing on XO which rarely happens.  Apart from that its identical. don't know where you get the better lookin game ,, unless you are talking about resolution?  Sure there are gamers who would pick ps4 version purely on those tiny difference which is fine by me.

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 



Raziel123 said:
DarkRPGamer007 said:

And the thing is XB1 and Wii U should both be crushing PS4 because they both have better exclusives than PS4 does. 


in your opinion

Not in mine and not in many others apparently.


As of what's out this very minute, you would have to be a blind specific console fan to not acknowledge that the Wii U has the best exclusives available to purchase today out of the three 8th gen systems.



Stop hating and start playing.

dane007 said:
Scisca said:
dane007 said:

max is still MS xbox one console exclsives. i did say i  have personal bias towards indies as to me indeis games are not real games . he asked for big MS exlcusive and i considered Max to be a big platformer exclusive to xbox one.  The game i s also available on 360.   If you count Indies along with AAA exclusives then yea ps4 wins but if you just count AAA first party exclusivess,, then atm in my opinion xbox one is in th eleas. that may change in the futre when more games come out. 


You know what your problem is? You don't take into account that all the exclusive games released thus far on XO or PS4 are worth shit and people know it. Yeah, that is the truth. These games are shit (Titanfall? Seriously?) and will be seen as such in two years time. Not a single one of them will be looked upon as a great game in a year or two. Wii U is the only console with good exclusives that will still be considered great, but then again - it's older and already has tier 2 games and not such launch window games. Still, why doesn't it matter at all? Let's say that XO has a slight edge over PS4 in exclusives department right now (though IMO ISS is the best exculsive thus far, but I'm a sucker for such TPP games). Why doesn't it matter? Cause you don't buy a console for what it's got for launch, but for years to come! And what future is there in store for our consoles? Let's break it down.

Wii U - awesome but extreemely scarce 1st party games, and next to no 3rd party games, which will be watered down either way;

XO - a few good 1st party games, multiplats noticably inferior to the PS4 versions;

PS4 - 1st party games better than XO's (there are generations of track record that make this a certainty, MS can't touch Sony's first party offering in the long run), the best versions of multiplat games, it will get all the Japanese games that won't even come close to XO;

Now do you start to understand? People don't buy consoles only to play what's already out. We buy them to play the stuff that's coming and the future is the brightest for PS4, there is no chance that XO or Wii U can suddenly change that. The mistakes made by N and MS in the desing phase will haunt them till the end of this gen, on the other Sony will reap the benefits of designing a flawless console.

You may prefer playing WD on XO - fine, but I would never buy it on XO, when on PS4 I get a better looking game and extra content. To me it's obvious and I bet most people prefer to get the most out of their purchases - PS4 allows us to get just that. Buying a game on XO you know you are getting less than you get if you choose the box with a blue logo. That matters and this won't change in the future. Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4.

I would glady take Titanfall over KZ  . i got both and the smoothness you get with titanfall make it hard to go back to kz in my opinion. KZ game is still fun to play in terms of single player campaign. Well based on what games was available at launch ,, i chose and bought XO first before i got PS4.  For me future doesn't matter as i get all eventually. but i know for most budget gamers ,, they would pick a console with games that like or games that htey know will come to a specific consoles. 
Can't comment on WII U as i haven't purchased it yet.  Thats opinion and great that you prefer sony first party exclusives over XO.  I prefer  Xo exclusives more but both have good exclusives like ISS which for me is the best first Party AAA on ps4  . XO will get japanese games much like 360 did. X360 did get japanese games that ps3 didn't get either and both had japanese games that came on both platforms. so don't know what you are talking about.  they were recent news of XO getting three japanese exclusives and one to be announced in the upcoming E3. WD looks similar on oth consoles. Even DF did the analysis.  me an my brother got copies of the game and they look identical.( i got XO and he got PS4) The only difference is the small resolution boost, slightly  more screen tearing on XO which rarely happens.  Apart from that its identical. don't know where you get the better lookin game ,, unless you are talking about resolution?  Sure there are gamers who would pick ps4 version purely on those tiny difference which is fine by me.

"Anyone who wants to get the most out of their money chooses PS4." Again thats your opinion not fact. 


Some opinions are based on experiance and reality...others are based on loyalty and delusion. At this point you are willfully ignoring reaity because it doesn't fit your perception.



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BuckStud said:
Raziel123 said:
DarkRPGamer007 said:

And the thing is XB1 and Wii U should both be crushing PS4 because they both have better exclusives than PS4 does. 


in your opinion

Not in mine and not in many others apparently.


As of what's out this very minute, you would have to be a blind specific console fan to not acknowledge that the Wii U has the best exclusives available to purchase today out of the three 8th gen systems.


That is entirely subjective. There are upcoming Wii U games i'm interested in but there isn't a single one already released that I want. So no, it does not.