I know they don't need to estimate that because shipments are directly trackable and typically only available to the publisher unless given out during financials. For the rest of it, that's exactly what I said.

Past history tells us to not trust publishers for number of games sold at retail, so I'll continue to doubt until I see a tracking service announce it.

I believe they're absolutely the same. There are very instances where shipped numbers can be equated to sold, and that's for sellouts (PS4 at launch and a few after and the Wii in its first few years, etc).

The attempts to downplay and minmimize this game and its success has been one of the sadder things I have witnessed in gamer recently. A new IP doing well is good for the industry, I am convinced many of you would rather the industry collapse in the name of console wars.

Of course! :D

lol wow. We in for some interesting numbers then.

Btw when does the X1 pricecut come into effect in the states? And when will that reflect in the numbers...

I don't remember sony ever using "sold through" meaning shipped. They used to just say "sold". And even if they used it doesn't mean Ubi is using like that as well, and assuming they are is quite a leap of faith since 99% of the time the industry use "sold through" to indicate sales to final consumers.

Anyway, increadible sales for the game. If UK sales are representative the game sold between 3.7x and 7x what Mario Kart 8 sold.

So you do believe both figures are shipped not sold? Good to know. But your'e wrong on both.

i think 6th jun, so in 2 days. i think. 

So we're looking at at least 1.5m for the PS4. That's a massive first week for a console barely 7-8 months old. Very impressive