Its a fact that most ppl dont realy like putting much effort into understanding storys that arent told to them very clear cut. You get ppl everytime saying Inception is a terible movie cause the story is a mess, or the Last of Us makes no sense cause theres almost no exposition on the storytelling or that American Hustle was a terrible movie cause the sotry was convoluted.

Possibly, but saying that the story was too hard to understand or complex for him and he thus doesn't like it, is assuming quite alot and also making Beyond into more than it actually is. It is perfectly understandable if someone didn't like the story very much and that does not necessarily have anything to do with it being too complex or whatever.

I find the story of Beyond very easy to follow  and not very complex either and I just also find the story to not be very good.

Lol  you know both games jave different settings so impossible to recreate  set pieces in a god war fashion. One is god and the other is a oman. Both ahve set peices which are impressie in their own right.  Second whether or not the combat of GOW is  deep  is based on personal preference. I have played all the GOW games and you can get away with mashing one move the entire game if you play on normal.   In god of war the key to winning battles is just to memorize the enemy pattern and find one move that they keep falling itno . On hard you need to doge and parry which is to be expected.  Theres as much of a strategy in GOW battles than there is in Ryse if you play them at the hardest difficulty.  . Secondly if you finish the capaign in 4-5 then you are playing it on easy and not exploring for the additonal items that increases your stats much liek the items you have to find in GOW . On normal is the same exact length as the first three GOW games and much longer if you play on hard and the hardst diffculty . So no idea where you got 4-5 hours capaign. Even GOW games on normal are quite short to be honest. Secondly the combat of Ryse is nothing like GOW. Its more to that of the batman games. If you played the batman arkhma games then you know.  Everytime you get perfect timing you get reqrded. Ryse tweaed it a bit and addded it with QTE to get health , strength  and focus. I can tell you on the hardest diffculty getting the timing right is not easy and you need to get it spot on or you won't get teh bonuses. You need the bonuses as you don't get chest of life like you do in GOW ,  Plus   GOW deos not have great story. the story is so predictable that it gets annoying especially since the story premise is repeated in GOW 1,2,3  and to some extent in ascension. Its teh same where kratos beleives the god ,, does what they do and then gets his power stripped away , leading him to go on a rampage revenge against the gods. IMO thats not great story.

Ryse was a horrible game. It should be judged on that merit. I can only imagine how much worse it would have been as a kinect title hah.

If it was as cool as a QD game, sure.

Yeah, Beyond is so complex that is just went right over my head. Like how...wait, no...it was pretty much entirely straightforward. The story didn't do anything "complex", except its terrible and unneccesary attempt at non-linearity. Its characters were largely two dimensional, the story was broken and terribly paced (even when put together in chronological order) and as a whole it just didn't do much of anything interesting. If you don't want to have a discussion and back up your arguments, I wont mind, but don't pretend that you are some bastion of intellegence for being able to find a hint of something good in this pile of sub-standard storytelling.

I could also argue with you and say that I actually love "complex" storylines and non-linear storytelling (when done right) and I am actually a pretty big fan of movies and whatnot, which is part of the reason I have so many problems with Beyond.

I'm not entirely sure I follow your train of thought here. Both Heavy Rain and Beyond were heavily criticized, hell, most of what Quantic Dream does is criticized simply because it's usually a different approach to interaction/story telling than what we're used to (let alone the QTE's, QD's games aren't for everyone, they're definitely niche titles). It's odd that you're not aware of this already.

Except not all Quantic Dream games have been praised. Beyond Two Souls had very mixed reviews with most coming down on the side of it not being a very good game. Had Quantic Dream come out with Ryse it would still have received the same amount of praise/disdain.

Bottom line: wouldn't made any difference whatsoever.

No, it wouldn't

It would've been forgotten quicker than Beyond.

NOBODY talks about Beyond.

If Ryse was made by QD which would also make it exclusive to Playstation, we would all talk about how this game is a perfect example of how Playstation fans overhype their games, how Sony game are just GRAPHIC GRAPHICS GRAPHICS with crappy gameplay, and the users who seem to praise it today would probably be singing a different tune about it if it was a PS game.


Also i'm replaying through The Last Of Us now and that gameplay is GREAT. That gameplay was VERY fluid. That gameplay was about as good as a survival horror game gets. theres probably only a couple things to improve on going forward. So i don't know what you're trying to go off on by claiming that the gameplay is average

I have to ask because I am not sure if you are being serious or not. Are you saying that PS/Sony fans ignore GOW? Like in a serious manner? I mean it is one of the Top 3 Ps/Sony exclusives and you are saying it is ignored? GOW:A got flack because it was not as good as other GOW games but other than that the GOW franchise has NEVER been ignored. And both (GOW and Uncharted) get A LOT of praise...so I am not sure what you are saying or what you mean.

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I do not think Ryse would get praise if it was made by QD. I personally enjoyed Ryse even with the broken/messed up gameplay. I had a lot of fun with the game. It looks amazing and the voice acting was top notch but the story was nowhere near anything special. It was indeed very subpar imo. It doesn't get praise because it was not a truly well made game....has nothing to do with who it was made by if you ask me.