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so.. nothing left for me to do then to calculate the predication league scores... really sucks.. but 4 years ago it was worse for us..



 

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I wasn't around here for the Germany - Brazil match, but I saw every second of that magnificent glory match.

Germany played the best first half in WC history and i'm thoroughly convinced that they didn't score 5 more goals on the second half, because they were just saving their strength for the final match, even so the score could have easily been 8-0 had Ozil taken his chance.

I took my hat down the Germany and I still have it down, because that's how amazing their performance really was.

If they play at just half that same skill in the final, Argentina doesn't stand a chance in hell to win this WC.



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Lafiel said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Penalty shoot outs are best and fairest way to decide winner and loser from drawn match. Penalty shoot out should be used to decide drawn matches, shoot out adds to the drama and excitement of the match.

in a league/group set up it's unfair to the teams that actually manage to win within the 90 minutes to have a pen shoot out to decide drawn matches

Really?

Do you really think the other teams are jealous that they couldn't play 120 minutes and have an easy penalty shootout instead of ending a game on time without luck deciding over their fate?

Winners of a penalty shootout are as much deserved as any other victorious team.



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I just realized that the final won't be Muller VS Robben.



                
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vivster said:
Fifaguy360 said:
Germany should play the same formation.

4-2-3-1

lahm - boateng - hummels - howedes

khedira - schweinsteiger

muller-----kroos-----ozil

-----------klose

Make sure to not play a high line like they did against Algeria. Algerians were relentless in the long ball counter attacks. Argentinians will be even more punishing.

That's the same as last match but it's still far from perfect.

Get fucking Mertesacker in ther and push Boateng to the left. You just can't leave Höwedes alone with Messi.


That's the last thing the Germans should want to do.

Mertesacker has no pace and that showed vs Ghana. 

Lavezzi, Messi, Aguero, Maria (if he plays) would have a field day with Mertesacker. 

Germany has looked their old self since moving Lahm back to lb, they should stick with that.

 



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vivster said:
Lafiel said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Penalty shoot outs are best and fairest way to decide winner and loser from drawn match. Penalty shoot out should be used to decide drawn matches, shoot out adds to the drama and excitement of the match.

in a league/group set up it's unfair to the teams that actually manage to win within the 90 minutes to have a pen shoot out to decide drawn matches

Really?

Do you really think the other teams are jealous that they couldn't play 120 minutes and have an easy penalty shootout instead of ending a game on time without luck deciding over their fate?

Winners of a penalty shootout are as much deserved as any other victorious team.


penalty shootouts are not fair because it is basicly luck. because of the reaction time and the speed the ball travels the keeper has to decide in which corner he jumps before the player kicks the ball. that and the fact no one can run after 120 minutest is probably why penalty shootouts are the last choice to decide the outcome of a game



para182 said:
vivster said:
Fifaguy360 said:
Germany should play the same formation.

4-2-3-1

lahm - boateng - hummels - howedes

khedira - schweinsteiger

muller-----kroos-----ozil

-----------klose

Make sure to not play a high line like they did against Algeria. Algerians were relentless in the long ball counter attacks. Argentinians will be even more punishing.

That's the same as last match but it's still far from perfect.

Get fucking Mertesacker in ther and push Boateng to the left. You just can't leave Höwedes alone with Messi.


That's the last thing the Germans should want to do.

Mertesacker has no pace and that showed vs Ghana. 

Lavezzi, Messi, Aguero, Maria (if he plays) would have a field day with Mertesacker. 

Germany has looked their old self since moving Lahm back to lb, they should stick with that.

 

Mertesacker doesn't have to be fast. He just needs to be tall and strong for the high crosses. Like he has always been. Hummels is the perfect addition to him. Do you really want to see Höwedes against Messi?



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mr_capello said:
vivster said:
Lafiel said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

Penalty shoot outs are best and fairest way to decide winner and loser from drawn match. Penalty shoot out should be used to decide drawn matches, shoot out adds to the drama and excitement of the match.

in a league/group set up it's unfair to the teams that actually manage to win within the 90 minutes to have a pen shoot out to decide drawn matches

Really?

Do you really think the other teams are jealous that they couldn't play 120 minutes and have an easy penalty shootout instead of ending a game on time without luck deciding over their fate?

Winners of a penalty shootout are as much deserved as any other victorious team.


penalty shootouts are not fair because it is basicly luck. because of the reaction time and the speed the ball travels the keeper has to decide in which corner he jumps before the player kicks the ball. that and the fact no one can run after 120 minutest is probably why penalty shootouts are the last choice to decide the outcome of a game

No one debates that a penalty itself is a lot of luck. It's not completely luck since there are shots that are unreacheable for any keeper even if he guesses the corner. Which means it's absolutely up to the skill if a player manages to perform such a shot. It's luck because most players lack the skill.

But that's not really the point. The players had a very fair chance for 90 minutes and then an even fairer chance of additional 30 minutes. Just because a penalty is a lot of luck doesn't make the process of deciding the winner unfair. There is no fairer way to decide the match without risking the health of the players.



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How about skip extra time and go straight for the penalty shoot out? 90 minutes is long enough. Why put players through 30 minutes of extra time?



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
How about skip extra time and go straight for the penalty shoot out? 90 minutes is long enough. Why put players through 30 minutes of extra time?

Yes. I always say that. Or at least bring back the Golden Goal.

And penalty kicks are the best way. How else would you decide? Lotery? Can't leave a knock-out game undecided, in the old games they replayed the entire match, but that's a bit excessive.