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Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Poor Gibraltar.

Here is a prediction that is actually bold: Gibraltar will concede less than 10 goals against Germany!

With a loss against poland and a draw against Ireland, there's a good chance now that Gibraltar will win^^

Germany have done pretty poor so far, but I still don't think there is much if any chance that they won't wipe the floor with Gibraltar.

Depends if they're bringing their B or C team or maybe try something new and bring on the D team.

I just hope they don't take petty. They tend to do these things and stop scoring after 5 goals -.-



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Moyu said:
REDZONE said:
Fuck fuck fuck.Can't believe Utd drew that game.The ref was absolutely shit.


There's been plenty of refball for Chelsea this season tbh.


Care to elaborate in what games because I watched every single one, and maybe one or two odd calls.The ref was an absolute cunt in this game.



REDZONE said:
Moyu said:
REDZONE said:
Fuck fuck fuck.Can't believe Utd drew that game.The ref was absolutely shit.


There's been plenty of refball for Chelsea this season tbh.


Care to elaborate in what games because I watched every single one, and maybe one or two odd calls.The ref was an absolute cunt in this game.

The early yellow to Rafael was undeserved. If the ref was a cunt I'm pretty sure he was a cunt to BOTH teams

Plus I don't think United managed to score due to Chelsea being a 10 man side after the red, I think it had more to do with Chelsea not being able to park the bus for the remainder of the match which is a bit surprising considering Mourinho's tactics when it comes down to 1-0 advantage :P



Ballon d’Or nominations: Gareth Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Lionel Messi, Thibaut Courtois, Eden Hazard, Diego Costa, Angel di Maria, Yaya Toure, Mario Gotze, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Andres Iniesta, Toni Kroos, Philipp Lahm, Javier Mascherano, Thomas Muller, Manuel Neuer, Neymar, Paul Pogba, Sergio Ramos, Arjen Robben, James Rodriguez, Bastian Schweinsteiger

Coach of the Year nomination: Jose Mourinho, Louis van Gaal, Carlo Ancelotti, Antonio Conte, Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klinsmann, Joachim Low, Manuel Pellegrini, Alejandro Sabella, Diego Simeone



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For player of the year I'd like to see Neuer or Schweinsteiger win it. They are both massively consistent players, but maybe a little underrated on account of them not being strikers.

Coach of the year... I think that should be between Joachim Low and Diego Simeone. Low won the World Cup, Germany were always going to do well there, but they did it with such style as well, much much better than when Spain won it in the most boring way possible. Simeone on the other hand finished above both Barcelona and Real Madrid, something which looked impossible for years! If any of the others win it I don't think it would be fair to those 2, especially if it were to be van Gaal



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Moyu said:
REDZONE said:
Moyu said:
REDZONE said:
Fuck fuck fuck.Can't believe Utd drew that game.The ref was absolutely shit.


There's been plenty of refball for Chelsea this season tbh.


Care to elaborate in what games because I watched every single one, and maybe one or two odd calls.The ref was an absolute cunt in this game.As

The early yellow to Rafael was undeserved. If the ref was a cunt I'm pretty sure he was a cunt to BOTH teams

Plus I don't think United managed to score due to Chelsea being a 10 man side after the red, I think it had more to do with Chelsea not being able to park the bus for the remainder of the match which is a bit surprising considering Mourinho's tactics when it comes down to 1-0 advantage :P


Di maria dived for that "foul", Ivanovic was marking Fellanni at set pieces, so yes Utd won due to us playing with 10 men.As usual they win/drew due to shady refereeing and Van Persie celebrating like he won d CL pathetic.



vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Poor Gibraltar.

Here is a prediction that is actually bold: Gibraltar will concede less than 10 goals against Germany!

With a loss against poland and a draw against Ireland, there's a good chance now that Gibraltar will win^^

Germany have done pretty poor so far, but I still don't think there is much if any chance that they won't wipe the floor with Gibraltar.

Depends if they're bringing their B or C team or maybe try something new and bring on the D team.

I just hope they don't take petty. They tend to do these things and stop scoring after 5 goals -.-


the d team is still much stronger than poor gibraltar.  they just have to score this time, they were stronger every game, but lost because they didnt scored enough.  maybe its finaly time to get kießling into the team



Ka-pi96 said:
Ballon d’Or nominations: Gareth Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Lionel Messi, Thibaut Courtois, Eden Hazard, Diego Costa, Angel di Maria, Yaya Toure, Mario Gotze, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Andres Iniesta, Toni Kroos, Philipp Lahm, Javier Mascherano, Thomas Muller, Manuel Neuer, Neymar, Paul Pogba, Sergio Ramos, Arjen Robben, James Rodriguez, Bastian Schweinsteiger

Coach of the Year nomination: Jose Mourinho, Louis van Gaal, Carlo Ancelotti, Antonio Conte, Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klinsmann, Joachim Low, Manuel Pellegrini, Alejandro Sabella, Diego Simeone

If FIFA had their way, no one but Messi would win it. It's good for image and promotion. Yet I don't see how they can while he is cheating Spain out of taxes.

The award is weird anyway and should not take into account team competitions, it should be done on stats only so it would include all players from all leagues. Yes, sure a player might not be earning as much as Ronaldo and may only be playing in the French Division 2 but if they scored 15 more than anyone else in the league, set up more than anyone else and were easily the best player in that league, they should get a shout at this.

Positions shouldn't matter either, sadly I think the keepers even defenders will never get a shout at winning this because it's highly favoured in attacking players favour.

... right rant over.

Good luck to the only British player on the list (only because he's playing in Spain) and the only UK based player on the list that earned this nomination from his time in the Premier League, Hazard. I somehow don't think Di Maria will be on the list next year. :P



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The Fury said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Ballon d’Or nominations: Gareth Bale, Cristiano Ronaldo, Karim Benzema, Lionel Messi, Thibaut Courtois, Eden Hazard, Diego Costa, Angel di Maria, Yaya Toure, Mario Gotze, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Andres Iniesta, Toni Kroos, Philipp Lahm, Javier Mascherano, Thomas Muller, Manuel Neuer, Neymar, Paul Pogba, Sergio Ramos, Arjen Robben, James Rodriguez, Bastian Schweinsteiger

Coach of the Year nomination: Jose Mourinho, Louis van Gaal, Carlo Ancelotti, Antonio Conte, Pep Guardiola, Jurgen Klinsmann, Joachim Low, Manuel Pellegrini, Alejandro Sabella, Diego Simeone

If FIFA had their way, no one but Messi would win it. It's good for image and promotion. Yet I don't see how they can while he is cheating Spain out of taxes.

The award is weird anyway and should not take into account team competitions, it should be done on stats only so it would include all players from all leagues. Yes, sure a player might not be earning as much as Ronaldo and may only be playing in the French Division 2 but if they scored 15 more than anyone else in the league, set up more than anyone else and were easily the best player in that league, they should get a shout at this.

Positions shouldn't matter either, sadly I think the keepers even defenders will never get a shout at winning this because it's highly favoured in attacking players favour.

... right rant over.

Good luck to the only British player on the list (only because he's playing in Spain) and the only UK based player on the list that earned this nomination from his time in the Premier League, Hazard. I somehow don't think Di Maria will be on the list next year. :P

lol. I agree that it should be more about individual performance than how much the team won. But I don't think your example of someone dominating in the French 2nd division would really work. They really need to be able to dominate in a top division, that's where the most competition is.

I agree positions shouldn't really matter. But it's harder to tell how well a defender or goalkeeper has done. With attacking players you can just look at their assists and goals and use that to judge how well they've done. You could do the same with goals conceded for defensive players, but that doesn't really tell the whole story about them.

Oh... and there is another UK based player that earned his nomination from playing well in the Premier League... Yaya Toure?



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Ka-pi96 said:

lol. I agree that it should be more about individual performance than how much the team won. But I don't think your example of someone dominating in the French 2nd division would really work. They really need to be able to dominate in a top division, that's where the most competition is.

I agree positions shouldn't really matter. But it's harder to tell how well a defender or goalkeeper has done. With attacking players you can just look at their assists and goals and use that to judge how well they've done. You could do the same with goals conceded for defensive players, but that doesn't really tell the whole story about them.

Oh... and there is another UK based player that earned his nomination from playing well in the Premier League... Yaya Toure?

Yeah, I know what you mean, top flight means tougher opponents and all that so maybe 2nd division might not be a good scale but just because they haven't been signed by a big club doesn't mean they weren't fantastic for their team and the league they were in.

Let's put this as an example, James Rodriguez in on that list. Sure he did well in the world cup but generally he's not done that well in the French league before his big money move. in the 13/14 season (based on stats from this website: http://www.espnfc.com/ ) he got 15 goals and 14 assists for Monaco and his country in 50 games. Impressive right? But it's not if you look at Wayne Rooney, who isn't on the list, he got in 49 games 24 goals and 19 assists. If it's based on personal achievement, already it fails because it's not representative on the player but the teams success too.

Another good example, new Southampton player Tadic, last season in 44 games he got 22 goals and 14 assists, just because he's playing in the Dutch league for Twente and now Saints means his personal stats should be ignored? He's playing top flight football in both the Netherlands and England as well as for his country.

The competition is favouritism sadly. 

Well, Rooney, just because he was on a shite team doesn't mean he wasn't good. Yaya, definitely and Aguero was far better than half that list above, if anyone should be on that list it's Aguero.



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