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curl-6 on 20 May 2014
petalpusher said:

Super mario 3d has some edge detect, everybody did see it on pre release screen, like i can see Mario Kart has none... Edge detect is the cheapest way to add AA and almost free, even compared to FXAA, there 's really nothing to brag about having edge detect AA. It's kind of a prehistoric solution.

If they could add MSAA/SMAA or even MLAA they would put some in their game for sure ("being conservative" not putting MSAA, is that a joke ?)

FXAA has been wide spread on last gen console cause it's damn cheap. On PC you usually have MSAA hopefully and some form of morphological AA (combined it can be great)

Actually, quite a lot of people ran around saying 3D World had no AA based on pre-release screens, and they turned out to be wrong.

What are you suggesting, that the Wii U can't do MSAA? That's already been proven false, as Black Ops II and Ghosts on Wii U both use it.



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petalpusher on 20 May 2014

Any hardware can do MSAA, even handhelds if you try hard.

Im just showing you Mario Kart 8 has no AA, is 720p, and it's obviously because WiiU hardware is too weak to do better. There s no drama here, it was expected.



curl-6 on 20 May 2014
petalpusher said:
Any hardware can do MSAA, even handhelds if you try hard.

Im just showing you Mario Kart 8 has no AA, is 720p, and it's obviously because WiiU hardware is too weak to do better. There s no drama here, it was expected.

Wii U can do better than Mario Kart 8 graphics, and it will. No console is ever maxed out in it's first 18 months.



DonFerrari on 20 May 2014

I think we found our new Selnor on TheDrill and the new JohnLucas on Mine. They sure can "argue" a lotin favour of their console.

Have anyone told him the main reason for cartoonish graphics is because they are a lot cheaper to do and less power hungry. PS4 could render MK8 at 4k60fps.



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walsufnir on 20 May 2014
curl-6 said:
petalpusher said:
Any hardware can do MSAA, even handhelds if you try hard.

Im just showing you Mario Kart 8 has no AA, is 720p, and it's obviously because WiiU hardware is too weak to do better. There s no drama here, it was expected.

Wii U can do better than Mario Kart 8 graphics, and it will. No console is ever maxed out in it's first 18 months.


If it's not discontinued after that... I think it can do better technically but don't see any game beside X currently do it.



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curl-6 on 20 May 2014
walsufnir said:
curl-6 said:
petalpusher said:
Any hardware can do MSAA, even handhelds if you try hard.

Im just showing you Mario Kart 8 has no AA, is 720p, and it's obviously because WiiU hardware is too weak to do better. There s no drama here, it was expected.

Wii U can do better than Mario Kart 8 graphics, and it will. No console is ever maxed out in it's first 18 months.


If it's not discontinued after that... I think it can do better technically but don't see any game beside X currently do it.

I'm pretty confident Art of Blance and FAST Racing Neo will top MK8 technically.



walsufnir on 20 May 2014
curl-6 said:
walsufnir said:
If it's not discontinued after that... I think it can do better technically but don't see any game beside X currently do it.

I'm pretty confident Art of Blance and FAST Racing Neo will top MK8 technically.


Oh, forgot about the geniuses at Shin'en. Both "games" look good, yes. Their tech has to be investigated further, hopefully by DF.



curl-6 on 20 May 2014
walsufnir said:
curl-6 said:

I'm pretty confident Art of Blance and FAST Racing Neo will top MK8 technically.


Oh, forgot about the geniuses at Shin'en. Both "games" look good, yes. Their tech has to be investigated further, hopefully by DF.

I can't see DF bothering with eshop games sadly.

Thankfully, Shin'en have been pretty open about a lot of the tech they are using; 4k-8k textures, subsurface scattering, physically based shading, etc.



walsufnir on 20 May 2014
curl-6 said:
walsufnir said:
curl-6 said:

I'm pretty confident Art of Blance and FAST Racing Neo will top MK8 technically.


Oh, forgot about the geniuses at Shin'en. Both "games" look good, yes. Their tech has to be investigated further, hopefully by DF.

I can't see DF bothering with eshop games sadly.

Thankfully, Shin'en have been pretty open about a lot of the tech they are using; 4k-8k textures, subsurface scattering, physically based shading, etc.


Well, Germans are just superior. We are just awesome.



Zekkyou on 20 May 2014
DonFerrari said:
I think we found our new Selnor on TheDrill and the new JohnLucas on Mine. They sure can "argue" a lotin favour of their console.

Have anyone told him the main reason for cartoonish graphics is because they are a lot cheaper to do and less power hungry. PS4 could render MK8 at 4k60fps.

Hmm, that would be an interesting topic to have. At 720p/60fps MK8 isn't really pushing the WiiU much, but at 1080p/60fps i imagine it would be hitting its upper limits. So if, for the sake of simplicity, we say that MK8 at 1080p/60fps is the WiiU's limit, then a properly optimized PS4 most likely could pull off 4k/60fps. It's about a 4 times jump, which is less that the current theoretical difference between the WiiU and PS4.

Would be completely pointless though, seeing as almost no one owns a 4k tv :p They could down-sample it to 1080p though, you couldn't get much better 1080p IQ than that :D