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Not even VGC takes VGC seriously any more :D



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kowenicki said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Machiavellian said:
Bail said:

 


Translation for y'all : "Starting 09/06 : PS4 remains the same "

EDIT : here's the link  

Sometimes tweets should be thought out more.  Saying the PS4 remains the same really isn't something to brag about.  It means the PS4 is not progressing or evolving but staying static while the competition is adding more value and incentives to the consumer.  That’s one of those arrogant tweets that made Sony look bad at the beginning of the PS3 era and does not sound good if Sony is smelling their success to much. 

This is the reason why I like it when one or the other company plays catch up.  If both MS and Sony were doing great, neither would have incentive to do better or compete better.  I like it more when MS is the one playing catch up.  MS definitely is not good when they are the lead because of their history.  Sony really isn’t better but they are better than MS. 

 

LOL! Why change a winning stragety? You are seriously trying to downplay the tweet too much. It doesn't mean it isn't evolving. It means it's given the gamers what they wanted from the begining #winning

Well we shall see.  That momentum based purely on good will won't last forver unless they start delivering.  Smart arse tweets and childish pranks by grown men becomes tiresome after a while.  It might start to look desperate too.

I think the consensus of the neutral gaming press is that right now the ONE has the better software line up and has the better experience.   Lol, even Francis thinks so... thats some turnaround.

Doubt it. This just seems like a fun post to me.

There is only a handfull of die hard fans who might be annoyed by it. An insignificant group.



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DerNebel said:
Shinobi-san said:
DerNebel said:
Now the competition can really start.

I'm kinda inclined to search for all the people that said they'd never drop kinect.


I dont see the point in doing something like that. MS seemed pretty dedicated to Kinect. There was good reason to believe that they wouldnt have dropped Kinect.

And on the flip side of that, there was also good motivation as to why they should drop it.

I dont see either opinion as being unreasonable.

Because it's fun to point those things out to people, especially when they're really adamant about it. There is no malicious intent behind something like this (or at least not for me) it's just a fun part of forum posting, when someone makes a prediction like this, he should be aware that people might come back to call him out on it, when/if it turns out wrong and there's no harm in doing that (of course there are always points where things stop being funny)

Especially in this case I really don't see why anyone would be mad when he's being called out for being wrong, after all this is nothing but good news for the Xbox (even though I've seen people trying to spin this saying things like this would make the developer community mad, because it's going to split the userbase etc.)

I agree with you. But in this case, both arguments could be well backed up.

Some people make crazy claims without backing it up...that would be the best time to do something like that.



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This is fucking rich. I'm choking on my laughter right now.

If they are finally returning to the kind of things that made me like the OG Xbox, then I might have all 3 systems of this gen sooner than I thought.



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kowenicki said:
People are ACTUALLY saying it wont make a difference?

What planet are you living on!?


I agree with you 100% mate. Xbox haters will have no excuse to bash Microsoft anymore.. But I must admit that I am a bit sad and disappointed because this will mean that Microsoft will drop support for Kinect games now that its no longer mandatory. Do you have the same concern?



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FattyDingDong said:
kowenicki said:
People are ACTUALLY saying it wont make a difference?

What planet are you living on!?


I agree with you 100% mate. Xbox haters will have no excuse to bash Microsoft anymore.. But I must admit that I am a bit sad and disappointed because this will mean that Microsoft will drop support for Kinect games now that its no longer mandatory. Do you have the same concern?

This is a stupid reason to, no offense.

If MS want's Kinect support then they should make it worth while it self. Now that the Kinect has to sell on its own merits, MS needs to actually give people a reason to buy it.



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kowenicki said:
FattyDingDong said:
kowenicki said:
People are ACTUALLY saying it wont make a difference?

What planet are you living on!?


I agree with you 100% mate. Xbox haters will have no excuse to bash Microsoft anymore.. But I must admit that I am a bit sad and disappointed because this will mean that Microsoft will drop support for Kinect games now that its no longer mandatory. Do you have the same concern?


Not really, I'm not arsed either way.  If they bring some, great, if they dont... fine.

 

Yes but i love kinect and see loads of potential in it. lol



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I wonder what kind of discount Forza 5 will have. I've been waiting on it to be cheap used because I love the franchise but can't support that day one DLC and microtransaction bullsh, but if the digital version is discounted enough, I might have to cross the line.



BenVTrigger said:
BillyBong said:

multiple departures and cancelled IPs mean diddly squat.  Still more studios than your competitors means more 1st party titles in the long run.  least I heard, none of those studios were closing down..

You have to also look at who has already been utilized.

Sucker Punch JUST launched Infamous so don't expect a game from them soon

Uncharted is looking like its pretty far away considering the layoffs / very little info

Guerrilla put out Killzone only 6 months ago, and while I know they have another IP coming down the pipe it is most likely still at BEST a year away

Santa Monica just had a big chunk of staff layed off, one of their most important devs leave the company, and a big brand new IP canceled. 

 

Now that isn't just doom and gloom for Sony by any means, and as I said they are traditionally very strong with software. They very well could come out and blow our socks off at E3 with tons of amazing reveals. That being said many of the big players seem to be quite a ways away from launching another game for the PS4.

Guerrilla putting out Killzone 6 months ago is irrelevant, thery are a two team studio.  Santa Monica is massive and is said to still have God of War 4 and another new IP in development.

You are also forgetting quite a few.  Sony Bend have a new IP that is yet to be announced, as do Media Molecule and Quantic Dream.  Sony Japan has a few new IPs rumored to be in develoment and are also co-developing Project Beast.  PS4 sounds worse off only when you forget just how many studios they have/work with.

Now the ones I added might not be as big as SSM or ND but it only takes one great game. If The Order 1886 metas above 85 and sells well Ready at Dawn instantly become a great developer.(and hopefully Sony buys them)



I do have to wonder though, do you think that Kinect Sports Rivals mediocre performance had some form of influence in that decision?