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medellingamer on 14 May 2014
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Retro aren't really in a position to make technical demands of Nintendo.

Then just what technical requirements did Nintendo have for their next generation console ? Their fetish for making energy efficient consoles get in the way of making mild contenders that consume over 100 watts. A 30 watt device doesn't seem really impressive to those developers and this makes things even worse as the WII U is using the older 40nm process node. 

The wiiu uses a 45 process node confirmed by chip works http://chipworksrealchips.blogspot.com/2014/02/intels-e-dram-shows-up-in-wild.html?m=1   they compare wiiu edram vs 360 edram and give out die sizes.



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curl-6 on 14 May 2014
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

Basically, one that offered the same kind of leap over the Wii as the PS3 did over the PS2. (As long as it fit in a small case, used little power, was quiet, generated little heat, was backwards compatible, and wasn't going to RROD)

So Nintendo wanted their next generation console to match the Tegra K1 ? Am I getting this right ? 

I very much doubt that was ever their target.



fatslob-:O on 14 May 2014
curl-6 said:

I very much doubt that was ever their target.

Then be more specific to portray Nintendo's target as an unthrottled Tegra K1 looks like it's more than a match for the WII U. What exactly did Nintendo demand that their next generation hardware be capable of ? 



fatslob-:O on 14 May 2014
medellingamer said:

The wiiu uses a 45 process node confirmed by chip works http://chipworksrealchips.blogspot.com/2014/02/intels-e-dram-shows-up-in-wild.html?m=1   they compare wiiu edram vs 360 edram and give out die sizes.

The GPU is more important to the discussion at hand rather than the CPU ...



medellingamer on 14 May 2014
fatslob-:O said:
curl-6 said:

I very much doubt that was ever their target.

Then be more specific to portray Nintendo's target as an unthrottled Tegra K1 looks like it's more than a match for the WII U. What exactly did Nintendo demand that their next generation hardware be capable of ? 


Dude there target was 360 like graphics and they haven't even matched it yet.



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medellingamer on 14 May 2014
fatslob-:O said:
medellingamer said:

The wiiu uses a 45 process node confirmed by chip works http://chipworksrealchips.blogspot.com/2014/02/intels-e-dram-shows-up-in-wild.html?m=1   they compare wiiu edram vs 360 edram and give out die sizes.

The GPU is more important to the discussion at hand rather than the CPU ...


Did you look at the pics in the article it confirms the wiiu gpu to be 45nm process node



fatslob-:O on 14 May 2014
medellingamer said:

Dude there target was 360 like graphics and they haven't even matched it yet.

You sound an awful lot like ninjablade ... 



fatslob-:O on 14 May 2014
medellingamer said:

Did you look at the pics in the article it confirms the wiiu gpu to be 45nm process node

Even if the GPU is manufactured at 45nm process node it stll doesn't make a huge difference as their would only be a 10% chip area scaling difference at most. 



medellingamer on 14 May 2014
fatslob-:O said:
medellingamer said:

Did you look at the pics in the article it confirms the wiiu gpu to be 45nm process node

Even if the GPU is manufactured at 45nm process node it stll doesn't make a huge difference as their would only be a 10% chip area scaling difference at most. 

160 shader units seems a little more reasonable since we now know it's on a larger process than the 40nm TSMC parts we were using to compare. I'm sure some can still argue otherwise, but I've personally seen enough to convince me that those numbers are accurate.



medellingamer on 14 May 2014

Mario kart 8 aliasing is goddamn horrendous and the texturework/AF is really below par.
Jeez. At least it's 60FPS. It's certainly not a looker, that's for sure.