They are? Windows phones have been having a helluva time becoming relevant and their mandatory Kinect idea is hampering their whole console division right now. And their release in China is of no consequence, MS won't gain much by launching there, even less than in Japan.

The XBO is still supposedly conquering NA, though. And it isn't at Wii U level in Europe either. They are clearly doing something right if the consumer decides to purchase an XBO over a Wii U.

Also, we are strictly talking gaming here. If we were to talk about all divisions of companies then Sony would also be "out of touch."

Very true, and the bolded proves my point; companies make mistakes, it just so happens that Sony and MS have several divisions to make them with whereas Nintendo is more or less a gaming company only so when they screw up (like the others do as well), it'll be all the more clear for all to see.

I actually think Ouya has a better chance.. Nintendo should create a console like that with up to gamecube games..

If you look at ZTE's FunBox (also an android box but from china) it's pretty powerfull

The box is powered by NVIDIA’s quad-core, Tegra 4, 2GB of RAM, 8GB of storage plus 2 USB ports, HDMI and Ethernet jacks, and a microSD card slot..

there is a working gamecube emulator for android but it still runs 2fps.. but with nintendo magic they could sort that out..

A hybrid thing is almost sure..  But i think they will aim a litle higher..  a litle under "Wii-U level"..  at the size of Upad "Eshop only"

Under Wii-U.. Meaning all wii games work and some Wii-U games/apps (or sligty lower ports). And that "power" would also mean it will run most DS/3DS games

(I dont think it will have 3d.. and only one screen. meaning most games don't work. but most 3DS AAA titles  can be "converetet" to one screen pretty easy)

HDMI offcourse.. And only when i think about it.. "MS way have not worked for us"?  it could very well have phone capabilities to.. And what about projektor tech :)  It would be a pretty "allround" product.. (

Nintendo is so lost in the dark, it is not even funny. This company is run by idiots.

People in emerging markets have access to the internet, therefore they are well aware of all the any new tech that gets released in the developed countries, and that is what they want. They don't want be treated as third rate costumers.

Just take a look at Apple, they never design their products for emerging markets and they couldn't be happier with the performance of their products in the emerging markets.

It could also/both mean Digital Only.. Becurse offcourse (MS will loose to pirats and used sale)

From a business point of view.. just look at apple..

(not saying they will go apple.. but game/services/life apps in markets like china.. has a lot of potentialle)

And yes i want one to.. but we wait a few years more and get one that has a projektor and power like a PS4 instead :)

iPhone 5c was partly designed for emerging markets in mind because 5 and 5s cost too much. iPhone 6 as well, one incentive to going with a bigger screen was because the chinese market likes big screens on their phones. 

I got that impression from your post because I honestly don't know how else it can be read, and this post only furthers that reading. Releasing the current-gen consoles won't lead to mass profits, for the reason some folks have since posted, you're against the idea of releasing a console tailored for the emerging markets because you think it's a risk, and you think it's a risk because what you call the Convenience Segment is going to handily defeat dedicated consoles. Broaden my earlier post to include browser and social games, but the point is the same: they can't realistically succeed with the Wii U there, and surrendering emerging markets without a fight is not a wise course of action, so either they try to go in with a console that's more appropriate or they jump into the market by slipping into this Convenience Segment. What option am I missing?

Even before the launch of the 3DS I was one of the first to say that this generation will see a dramatic contraction, and I'll formally repeat it here: this generation is going to be ugly for dedicated game consoles. But that won't be because this Convenience Segment suddenly takes over everything. It will be because the decisions made by the game industry, software and hardware, make the dedicated gaming console unappealing.

Where you see a "new" segment taking a big bite out of dedicated handhelds, I see a market where the dedicated handhelds (whose first audience is and should continue to be children) released $250 technological boondoggles AND raised the price on software. I see a market where the cheapest home console costs $300, looks largely identical to the 7th generation consoles, and has a controller which is not only dual-analogue but now also sports a capacitive touchscreen and looks incredibly unwieldly and uncomfortable (and has a three hour battery life to boot). The most expensive home console is $500 and insists on having a motion sensor that much of its games hardly use. The middle console is $400, and graphics aside is basically a clone of its predecessor. The latter is also the best console of this generation. :-/

I also see this "new" segment where mobile games are simply the successor to the cell phone games which have been big in Japan since the early 2000's, a territory where the dedicated handheld is the strongest in the world per capita: mobile didn't stop the DS, PSP, or 3DS. I see a "new" segment where social-based games have weakened so much that Facebook feels the need to spend a billion dollars to buy the latest VR headset in an effort to bolster its gaming segment: profits are bad enough that companies like EA and Zygna that bet literally billions on it only a few years ago are retreating as fast as they can. I see a "new" browser market dominated by free-to-play games, a business model that's extremely dependent on a relative handful of whales to make any money; and if history has taught us anything, it's that a market dependent on a small handful of people is the definition of unstable.

In brief, I see a generation which saw unprecedented highs for dedicated consoles in spite of all the ink wasted on overpraising the "new" segments of the market (segments which existed in some form prior to the 7th generation). And I see an 8th generation where hubris caused all the lessons of the 7th generation to be discarded, with predictable results. The reason "consoles are losing relevance even in their strongest territories" is because the 8th generation is filled to the brim with stupid ideas. Not because "the convenience segment will [suddenly] conquer these markets [when they failed to do so last generation]."

"Hmm, entering into battle with smartphones/tablets and browser/social games will not end well, I think"..."the convenience segment will conquer these markets and consoles are losing relevance even in their strongest territories"..."[trying to combat the Convenience Segment] is a horrible plan in this day and age and shows that Nintendo are truly struggling to keep up with the modern market movements and development."

The popular conclusion to the saying "if you can't beat them" is usually "join them." Saying "They should stay first-party because their strength is controlling hardware" doesn't amount to much when your very next sentence is "but controlling your own hardware ain't enough to beat the competition, so prepare to get pounded"!

I have literally never heard this statement before. It certainly doesn't make a lick of sense to me. If it were true, the markets of the world would be homogenized: they are not. The vast number of companies, big and small, throwing untold billions of dollars to try to get a foot in the emerging markets early clearly implies that they don't hold this premise to be true either. Just looking at gaming, the Japanese market is radically different than the North American one, which in turn is very distinct from the European one. Shoot, even European countries' markets tend to be vastly different from one another.

This premise, which seems to be the crux of your thesis, is blatantly false.

What makes the two goals mutually exclusive though? Whatever they come up with to re-win the developed markets won't fly in the emerging markets, for reasons already stated by myself and others. Even if they find the next Wii-Sports type phenomenom, the average person in China won't spend a tenth of more of their annual income to buy it. Meanwhile, their competitors are making money and inroads into the emerging markets, where a generation or two from now the Nintendo Ultra 1,028 has become affordable for the masses, and can be released simultaneously there as in the developed world.

Shoot, even the phrasing of your premise is wrong. Nintendo wouldn't be seeking to "revitalize" consoles in the developing markets, they'd be seeking to "introduce" them. It's not like your average Indian had access to an NES in the 80's, or a Brazilian taken randomly off the street likely owned a GBA at the turn of the milennium. When it comes to consoles the emerging markets are largely a New World. Someone's gotta bring smallpox blankets to the natives and seize those silver mines: why let Sony or Microsoft or some other company take New York when Nintendo has a bag of beads available to bargain with too?

The reasons I've ascribed that position to you are set out above, and to be perfectly honest I certainly can't reconcile those statements with any other logically consistent position, although I now think it's more that you're beginning from a completely flawed premise and thus arriving at an equally flawed conclusion. That sounded less condescending in my head. I will add here though that it doesn't sound to me at all that Nintendo is expecting another Wii with this strategy hoping, sure, but all prodcuers dream of that for their product even when they don't honestly expect it, and honestly I'm not sure where you got that impression. Instead, they're simply trying to get in early on the new markets, while doing so in a manner that is both profitable and effective. In other words, they're saying that they'll be trying to do what anyone in their position should be trying to do.

I'll conclude with an aside for the last set of comments: you're correct that certain people on this site get upset when you suggest Nintendo has lost its way. I don't think it's a stretch to say that I'm far from being one of those people. It'd simply be far too hypocritical of me to do so. But manpower issues aside I don't see much here that causes me to shake my head and wonder how they've fallen so far.

What does partly designed mean? GTFOH!! Iphone 5c was, according to apple, designed for the low income people of the US. You´re just making assumptions!! You have to understand that middle class people in like countries like Brazil, or any country ( I´m from Brazil, I know better), will never be satisfied with a third rate product. 

You´re probably one of those people who think we still have SD tvs in our living rooms.