the big guns like amazon,gamespot,walmart ect constantly on the hour has the ps4 easily ahead on best selles list every single day.yet ps4 only outsells it in n.a by a couple of thousand after adjustments?

what is to argue about?

PS4 3.1m
ONE 2.8m US numbers

sony already got the job done reining in the 360 deficit,a couple of npd wins won't do much either way

I agree with you sales. I see the numbers and take them for what they are. If they're adjusted, I take those for what they are. I don't know why some here just can't do that. Always with the "overtracked" or "undertracked".... Give it time, the real numbers always come out...

The PS2 going from 100M to 150M+ was 6 years, 5 of which was in the life of the PS3. I'm not saying the PS3 will sell another 20M, but if it's on the market as long as the PS2 was, it'll be close. Let's just say it stays at the pace it's on: roughly 45k a week. It'll do 2.2M a year. That's 13.2M over 6 years (if it stays on the market that long) which would put the PS3 at 95.1M. And that's just assuming the rate stays exactly the same, not factoring in the holidays or future price cuts. Give PS3 12-13 years on the market like the PS1 and 2 got, and it can reach the sales standards of its predecessors. 

Ethomaz only has like 4 months of data that he is going off of.  So if it is wrong next month, for example, his percentage would go down from 100% to 80%.  Thats a big drop. There is not enough data for one wrong month to be considered an anomaly.  

Plus, talal said it would become an indication instead of absolute proof, which is true.  You cant be 100% without always being right.  Maybe once he has some more months to back it up, but it wont happen.  Soon there will be too many bundles out there and it will be impossible to keep track of every system sold on amazon.  

As it is, it is just an theory that lacks enough evidence to substantiate it.  So people will just bicker back and forth about it...

I find it quite hypocritical for Xbox fans to take this stance, just because the PS4 is ahead.  As if it was obvious that the One/360 was undertracked, they wouldn't be posting "undertracked" left and right.  I know a few that would and have.  So, stop this "holier than thou" facade when it's about PS4 numbers.

A certain other group did what you accuse the xbox fans off during the first years of the ps3

I think it's also safe to assume Sony will start pushing the PS3 in the smaller countries, like they did the PS2, once it drops to ~$149.  I do think the Wii will stay ahead, given how it is performing after the PS4's release, but it should be close.

Ok, show me a post that I ever claimed any Xbox undertracked. Edit: (I put one down below for you). Or one where I proclaim myself an Xbox fan. I have a ps4, and do not have an x1... This post shows so much ignorance, it made my head hurt. I said I take the numbers until the real numbers come out.... The only one who's holier than thou is you, and that's your facade. 

Funny thing is, the same ones crying undertracked are always the same ones crying overtracked.

Im speaking of the numbers in general, I never mentioned a system. You did all that. You can get mad over vgc numbers, I'll wait until the official numbers come. Until then, vgc numbers are fine. So calm down.

I thought it was always known that this site isn't going to 100% accurate? Heck the PS Vita is overtracked by a good margin also I don't see very many people complaining about that. 360 is also undertracked by a good amount.