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sales2099 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
kowenicki said:
 


Deary me.    You just dont get it do you. 

I'm only really a spectator here but it seems to me that it's you that's not getting it. You keep saying that people are butt hurt because the numbers don't suit them but what I'm seeing is people who are right to question the numbers and are proven right over and over again. Your stance just doesn't seem to make sense ... sorry.

In the end, people are just seeing the numbers for what they are. When they are adjusted, so will the mindsets of the people that bragged before. Praising people who called foul, even if they turned out right, is just praising pessimism in general. Better to take the numbers as we see them and adjust ourselves accordingly "if" they are changed.

When for all of 2014, thus far, VGC keeps having the PS4 under the XBone in NA, then NPD turns around and says that the PS4 outsold the XBone each month, people seeing, repeatedly might I add, that the XBone is above the PS4 on VGC in NA and then crying foul on those numbers isn't pessimism. It's skepticism. Logical skepticism. You wanna know why no one here trusts insiderp? It's because they keep being wrong. But nobody was in those insiderp threads telling the insiderp detractors (you know, the "insiderp again?!" posters) "you guys may have been right, but you shouldn't call out for insiderp for being wrong. You're just being pessimistic". No, people are talking about banning the site for being incorrect day in and day out. Not "maybe they'll be right this time". VGC has been consistently wrong in the NA region. But we just need to take the numbers at face value, knowing that all trends show PS4 > XBone in America, instead of criticizing it, like we do all other incorrect information? Why? So you can have a moment of bliss to say that XBone is doing better than PS4 somewhere in the world? That's being delusional. Instead of "changing the mindsets of people that bragged before", how about we allow the correct information be put out to everyone so we all can be right, from the jump, and no one has to be wrong and subsequently ridiculed for it?



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I keep telling ya guys, VGChartz is doing this, so we can get all excited about the NPD numbers. They are in cahoots. Lol xD

Of course, I have no proof but the trend seems to be there hahahaha



POE said:
GribbleGrunger said:
POE said:
DonFerrari said:
And we have another week were vgc keeps getting x1 numbers above ps4 Just to show to be wrong on NPD.


And we have another week were all the Nostradamus lineage comes to speak about the future.

Just out of interest, how many months does VGC have to get it wrong before you start to question their numbers? 3 months? 5 months? 10 months? Indefinitely?

You really aren't in a postion to be questioning those that have been right. Your energy is best spent finding out why they HAVE BEEN right.

I question their numbers, i don´t even trust them anymore. But even if they were wrong a thousand or a million times before, that doesn´t mean they will be wrong this or any other week. The inteligent thing is to wait every month for the NPD result; without trusting them or assuming they´re wrong.

When numbers don't make sense based on a logical, objective analysis those people how used their critical thinking ability to reach this very reasonable conclusion should just stfu? Is that what you're saying? I actually look at the responses of some of those who did not support the claim that the original 19 April numbers looked wrong, who usually try to objectively analyse numbers, and their "defence" of those original numbers was very half-hearted suggesting even they thought something was out of whack.

Of course fanaticism will always lead to confirmation bias so some people will always believe numbers that support their console allegiance, and vehemently oppose any questioning of those numbers.



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NobleTeam360 said:
Why is everyone so but hurt? Hasn't it always been wait for NPD for more accurate numbers?

Has nothing to do with being butthurt.  Just wanting this site to be as accurate as possible.  Especially when it's something as obvious as the PS4 outselling the One in NA.



Augen said:
Mummelmann said:
No big surprises here. Wii U more or less flat yoy, 3DS heavily down, PS4 holding quite well and the One is doing pretty good too. Vita riding on Japan, we'll see how it performs over the summer. 7th gen edging closer to extinction every month, by the time 2015 starts, there won't be much left between the PS3 and 360 but I'm guessing there are still folks who believe the PS3 can catch the Wii.

Much of that depends on secondary and tertiary markets. I think it will be close when all is done in coming years (PS3 and Wii within 2 million of each other).

Stop dreaming ...xbox and ps3 are not catching wii sorry they are 20 million consoles behind..they would have to sell 834,000 ps3 or 360s consoles a month for the next two years to catch the wii ....lol sorry "ain't gonna happen ..just being honest ....people lie numbers don't 



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wary-wallaroo said:
kowenicki said:

Lowest PS4 sales week so far.

PS4 will also be below 100k probably and One below 70k coming up to E3

People expecting that sales momentum to continue have been living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

PS4 sales momentum will drop by January.... PS4 sales momentum will stop in February.... Titanfall will destroy the PS4's momentum in March.... I guess if said enough times, those predictions will eventually be true, lol

At least I do agree about the X1, it's going to die a slow death like the wii U

X1 still over tracked IMO, NPD will show that


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kowenicki said:
vivster said:
kowenicki said:

BS.  People werent defending the numbers neccessarily.  They were just sick of the embarrasingly juvenile reactions to them.

 

I'll give you that the outrage was way out of proportion but there were actually people rationalizing the numbers.


Perhaps.  There were more that were acting like infants.

Going by Ethomaz's links to your posts, seems you were acting a bit childish yourself. 



Why is Wii U beating PS3 a good thing?!



gamemaster4747 said:
Why is Wii U beating PS3 a good thing?!


Its better than losing to it which is worse :p

Kresnik said:
setsunatenshi said:

honest question, how accurate are those numbers for the Vita? I'm pretty sure Sony confirmed previously most of the sales they're getting is from digital releases on the handheld. I for one have 2 retail bought games and around 30 digital ones (including some PS+ freebies as well).


There will be a small pool of Vita owners who prefer physical releases (I am one of those people), but I wouldn't be surprised to see these numbers overtracked.


I prefer physical copies myself. Vita's memory cards are pretty expensive and if you get PS+, a 32GB card can be full pretty quick (like mine) and buying digital copies will just use precious space that could be used for the digital games on Plus. My only digital copies are PS All-stars, that was bundled with my Vita and Muramasa because it was US$ 12 last week on PSN.