bananaking21 said:
naruball said:
Which part didn't make sense to you?
Barney: He' s been a womanizer his entire life. He lies to Robin all the time. He doesn't do what she wants him to. That's Ted. Do we expect him to magically change and become a loving and "boring" husband? No. Barney is not marriage material, hence the divorce. Robin constantly had her doubts about him. Their marriage obviously wouldn't last. It was based on "fun" and there was no substance.
Every season was about Robin. Why would his kids want to hear about her all the time? It would make no sense for their mom to be alive and them to have to hear about his ex(es). I know if that were to happen to me and my mom was alive, I'd be like "Dad, I don't care about the other women. Shut up already". Anyone who was paying attention could tell that the story was about Robin. Even his daughter said so. The whole locker thing constantly reminded the audience that though Robin was marrying Barney, She should have been marrying Ted instead.
Marshal and Lily: boring as usual
How else would Ted end up with Robin if the mother didn't die? Even from the tone of his voice, you could tell that he wasn't telling an exciting story, but one with a sad ending. The mother was always a tiny part of the show. How many episodes were there taht she was not mentioned once?
So, did Stacy not matter? Of course she did. But Ted had two great loves, no matter what movies tell you about your other half bullshit.
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@bolded: They spent an entire season just focusing on Barney and Robins wedding. they went on to undo an entire season with making them divorce in the very last episode. they spent almost two seasons going at the baney-robin story, making it work and making it feel like its what they both wanted. again, just to end it with them being divorced and ending the story with barney being a sad loser in his 40's to just knock up some bitch we never even seen. another bimbo that fell for his playbook.
and i disagree, the last few seasons showed barney changing, his conflict with past GF's his father and robin were all about him changing. heck, the reason he got divorced was because he didnt settle down. while barney was never going to be the best husband, they clearly tried so hard to show you that he will always try his best.
@underlined: that would make sense if the kids staying and listening to the story made sense in the first place. who on earth would sit and listen to 208 stories (number of episodes) of how his/her father met their mother?
the whole locker thing actually ended what ever was between robin and ted, when she was freaking out and told ted lets go away together, and he said he didnt want to, and ment it. it was closure, and it should have stayed that way.
@italic: who wants to see robin with ted? they want at it so many times it got boring. other than that, he wants to date/marry his best friends ex wife? it doesnt feel right. The show was about the mother, yet they just killed her off and made the ending again, about robin. it isnt why people watched the show.
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We can argue about fictional characters until the end of time. But I'll reply one last time and leave it at that, as I'm not going to convince you that I'm right and know that won't change my mind, as I've given it a lot of thought.
Barney seemed to be changing. He didn't ncessariy actually change. Haven't you had friends who meet a girl, go through the most insane transformation, only to go back to how they were after they broke up? I've had several of those. Some where not Christian and because their gf was, suddnely became the biggest prudes in the world, refusing to even masturbate. Two years later, when their gf dumped them, they went back to their old tricks. They way I saw it, Barney was such a guy. I belive that people improve/become worse but rarely do a 180 and change completely. A divorce doesn't undo anything. Just because I broke up with my exes doesn't mean I don't cherish what we once had. Their 5(?) years together meant something to both of them. Robin couldn't even see him around other women and Barney seemed to try hard to make it seem ad everything was ok with him. It was actually a good thing that we never saw the bimbo, cuz it was not about her, but about his baby. Even villains have a soft spot for their children, so the only thing that could relaistically change him a bit would be a child. I've heard from people that that changes you (again, not completely but still gives you a different meaning in life).
"while barney was never going to be the best husband, they clearly tried so hard to show you that he will always try his best"
Barney wasn't rying his best. He was doing flashy things. Oh, let me lie to you and pretend Im marrying a fat chick jsut to make you desperate. Let me lie to you again about the whole dress rehearsal. It's actually fun to experience but a marriage doens't work like that. Those tricks work at the beginning of a relationship.
"that would make sense if the kids staying and listening to the story made sense in the first place. who on earth would sit and listen to 208 stories (number of episodes) of how his/her father met their mother"
Of course it's not realistic to either sit through all those stories or for Ted to remember them in such detail. But it's one of those unrelaistic things that the viewers learn to accept. The point is that most of the time he was talking about Robin. As a viewer I would be disappointed if there was so much emphasis on Robin every freaking season and then nothing actually happened between them in the end. Then why make it about her? So that the kids would have to worry that their dad wants a divorce, since he likes Robin so much as she's the one that got away, so he had to settel for their mom? Their mom being dead, was the only way the story he was telling his kids would make sense. Even if they killed Robin, the kids would be given the impression that their mom was the consolation prize and that he wishes he had chosen Robin instead.
"who wants to see robin with ted? they want at it so many times it got boring. other than that, he wants to date/marry his best friends ex wife? it doesnt feel right. The show was about the mother, yet they just killed her off and made the ending again, about robin. it isnt why people watched the show."
I didn't like them as a couple and most people didn't either. Whether it's boring or not, it's the ONLY way his story, i.e. the entire show could end and make sense. Didn't Barney also marry his friend's ex? It was weird to begin with. People watched the show for different reasons. The mother was a part of it and her ending up being dead doesn't change his story of how they met. Which was great. What he shared with her doesn't change because she's dead.