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fleischr said:
Seece said:
fleischr said:
Seece said:
fleischr said:
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bonzobanana said:
Its not just about the games. It's also about the performance of the console and its pricing.

I keep reading on this forum that great games will save wii u. Great games didn't save the Dreamcast.

More than anything though its about decent marketing.

It's about appealing to an audience. That means everything has to play a part. But at the end of the day, they can't appeal to the core or your average gamer because A) no third party support, B) online is lacking compared to competition, C) few core exclusives, D) can't/won't afford to money hat the big stuff, E) underpowered, F) console/company image goes against them.

Casuals ... it's too expensive, it's not fresh and unique like Wii, they're burnt out on the casual stuff (Just Dance, Wii series ect).

WiiU is perfect for some Nintendo fans, but you have a hard case selling it to anyone else.

Casuals have a fairly limited offering on the Wii U. All 8th gen systems have this same problem: they're not offering anything substantially better or different.

Just Dance on the Wii is pretty much the same game as on the Wii U.

NSMB Wii and NSMBU are very hard to tell apart besides graphics.

And beyond that, the LEGO games on PS3/360 are going to be pretty much the same as on next-gen.

There are some flashes of success they've had with casuals in the last year. Wii Party U sold really well in Japan, probably mostly owed to the fact it offered gamepad-centric features that differentiated it from previous Wii party games. SM3DW is the reason Wii U has gained any foothold at all in the US (though WWHD undoubtedly helped too). Beyond that, they have a lot of room for improvement for release timing. Rayman Legends, WWHD, and the Wonderful 101 all released within a week of eachother following a drought.

The fun and flair of MK8 and SSB are really their best chance of turning things around.  Not sure about SSB, but Nintendo is getting their act together with MK8 for the time being. I think we're underestimating how powerful a catalyst it can be. I mean 6 years later, MK Wii is still in the charts. If MK8 drops below, MK Wii in weekly in 2014 I'd be shocked.

Dreamcast never had franchises of such high caliber.

Given Wii sales I highly doubt MK Wii is selling as much as we have, that and it's bundled isn't it?

It is bundled. But what other 6 year old game can carry a bundle, even to the Wii levels?

A 6 year old game bundled with 360 or PS3? lol

You and I both know that would be on 360 or PS3's merits and their more recent catalog alone.

The individual MK Wii SKU still creeps into Amazon's top 100. You can still find it at most retail stores ... at $40.

Do you think MK8 will slip below MK Wii in weekly sales this year? Just curious. If MK8 performs like other WiiU games, it very well could.

No I don't, I think it'll be one of the few WiiU titles to have great legs (that and I think it'll be permanently bundled).



 

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The bad news outweigh the good news.
It really is Nintendo fault to what is happening to Wii U.

I just hope that the coming years will be without game droughts, given that we had them two years in a row.



Seece said:

Q1 2013: 190k

Q1 2014: 201k

Up 11,000 units in the US this Q.

However Worldwide it is down, as Japan has seen a big drop

Japan
Q1 2013: 227k

Q1 2014: 164k

Down 63k YOY.

Europe is an unknown, but it is A) by far WiiU's weakest region but B) trends like the US, so it could be down, flat, or up, but either way it won't be by much, not enough to offset being down 52k WW.

So partially good news for WiiU in the US, at the least it's stable, but not so good news in Japan and overall, Worldwide.

Im curious, do u still believe there Is a chance it doesnt meet Nintendo's shipment forcast of 390k this quarter? Looking at the numbers u provided shows it has sold 365k then when u add in Europe, Australia, Canada, Mexico, South America and any other region Wii U is available in its likely sold over 500k this quarter.



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The Game droughts aren't going to go away. Nintendo can't sustain a console by themselves without the purchasing of several more studios or some exclusivity deals, something which they've shown very little indication that they're willing to do.



zorg1000 said:
Seece said:

Q1 2013: 190k

Q1 2014: 201k

Up 11,000 units in the US this Q.

However Worldwide it is down, as Japan has seen a big drop

Japan
Q1 2013: 227k

Q1 2014: 164k

Down 63k YOY.

Europe is an unknown, but it is A) by far WiiU's weakest region but B) trends like the US, so it could be down, flat, or up, but either way it won't be by much, not enough to offset being down 52k WW.

So partially good news for WiiU in the US, at the least it's stable, but not so good news in Japan and overall, Worldwide.

Im curious, do u still believe there Is a chance it doesnt meet Nintendo's shipment forcast of 390k this quarter? Looking at the numbers u provided shows it has sold 365k then when u add in Europe, Australia, Canada, Mexico, South America and any other region Wii U is available in its likely sold over 500k this quarter.

I don't think it will, just because Nintendo don't seem to be able to meet their forecasts, ever. We don't know how much surplus stock they had from christmas, remember it's down YOY, so it sold 600k+ in Q1 last year but only shipped 390k.



 

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Honestly did not expect the Wii U to perform like this, I imagined this would be a decent year compared to 2013 with 40-50% yoy growth being within the realm of possibility, with two killer apps and another price cut. However, as it stands, it's just impossible for Q3 and Q4 to make up the loss of Q1 and Q2 and provide that major boost on top.
The One won't need very long to catch it at this rate and the PS4 is already over a million ahead.

I wonder if we'll see a price cut alongside Mario Kart? That seems like the only chance at a respectable summer baseline right now.



I expected it to do better, it has a cheaper price, much better library, and free games being bundled. Yet it's just barely improved from last year. An improvement is an improvement I guess, but it's still very disappointing.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

I think it could get worse for the WiiU as word of mouth gets around that smash is hitting the 3DS first by about half a year.



BeElite said:
Interesting, kinda supports the notion US is more gamer hardcore the likes of buying all the consoles. As its doing the best job supporting all 3.


we're also the biggest market period. If you really break down the numbers almost everything sells more units here.



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Seece said:
zorg1000 said:
Seece said:

Q1 2013: 190k

Q1 2014: 201k

Up 11,000 units in the US this Q.

However Worldwide it is down, as Japan has seen a big drop

Japan
Q1 2013: 227k

Q1 2014: 164k

Down 63k YOY.

Europe is an unknown, but it is A) by far WiiU's weakest region but B) trends like the US, so it could be down, flat, or up, but either way it won't be by much, not enough to offset being down 52k WW.

So partially good news for WiiU in the US, at the least it's stable, but not so good news in Japan and overall, Worldwide.

Im curious, do u still believe there Is a chance it doesnt meet Nintendo's shipment forcast of 390k this quarter? Looking at the numbers u provided shows it has sold 365k then when u add in Europe, Australia, Canada, Mexico, South America and any other region Wii U is available in its likely sold over 500k this quarter.

I don't think it will, just because Nintendo don't seem to be able to meet their forecasts, ever. We don't know how much surplus stock they had from christmas, remember it's down YOY, so it sold 600k+ in Q1 last year but only shipped 390k.


It was pretty massively overshipped at launch (840k according to vgchartz) which led to the low shipments in the first half of 2013. If we assume that Vgchartz has roughly the correct number that would mean about 360k on shelves at the end 2013 which is much better than the previous year. So assuming that vgchartz has the correct numbers its very likely Nintendo meets or exceeds 390k this quarter



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