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Forums - Sales - NPD March 2014 Thread - PS4 #1 (371k), Xbox One 311k, 360 111k, WiiU ~70k, Vita close to 4 digits. Titanfall tops software

 

Did the NPD results surprise you?

Yes 379 53.23%
 
No 308 43.26%
 
Total:687
Yakuzaice said:
thismeintiel said:

Something that I don't think anyone has mentioned, yet, is that the One has only shipped 1.1M this year, as of April 17th. Which means probably 900K-1M for Q1. This is in line with the 360's shipments for the past few years, a little worse for some years. MS keeps going on about how the One is outpacing the 360, overall, but these numbers definitely show sales are slowing down WW.

Well in total shipments it is still well ahead.  The first two quarters saw 3.2m for the 360.  However the majority of that, 1.7m, was actually in the Jan-Mar quarter.  The 360 was supply constrained and launched in more territories though, so the comparisons aren't perfect.  At the end of the year the XBOne was at ~1.8m in the US and 3m worldwide.  If that ration has held true this year, then the worldwide sales would be ~1.17m for 2014 based on 711k US sales.

I know total shipments are ahead.  It had a really good launch.  But, looking at just 2014 sales by themselves, they are shipping the same, or a worse, amount as the dying 360 has been the past few years.  It just illustrates how much sales have dropped in other parts of the world, while in the US it still remains ahead of the 360.



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Dark_Feanor said:
thismeintiel said:

Something that I don't think anyone has mentioned, yet, is that the One has only shipped 1.1M this year, as of April 17th. Which means probably 900K-1M for Q1. This is in line with the 360's shipments for the past few years, a little worse for some years. MS keeps going on about how the One is outpacing the 360, overall, but these numbers definitely show sales are slowing down WW.


You mean a $500 console selling slightly less than the last 2 years of a $300(or $200) console?

Funny thought that the PS4 is also selling slightly less than the did PS3 last 3 years... but in that case we can always blame "the shortages".

It's $450, now, with a game and, in some stores, a free year of Live.  Of course, this only changed mid-March, so I will concede that point for Q1.  Though, you have to show me where the PS3 has been shipping ~3M units in the first quarter for the past few years.  Cause if that's true, I think we definitely have the PS3 undertracked. 



Dark_Feanor said:

The funny thing about Neogaf is that the trend right now is:

 

"MS isnt pulling no PS3. The only reason why PS3 was able to bounce back is because of Sony's first party support and the devs talented enough to exploit Cell in said 1st party. MS got to comfortable coasting on 3rd parties last gen and now its biting them."

 

"Eh...The PS3 was carried by rest of the world.

Right now, the XB division is in a worst shape than the PS3 situation since the MS brand isn't that strong outside of NA/UK.

PS3 came back from a fricken 1 year sales gap + stupid high price because of the WW numbers and strong brand support. But X1? It is almost dead on arrival for most countries, hence why MS probably didn't want to ship extra units to other 2nd/3rd tier countries and wasting marketing/shipping resources for doing so."

And so on...

I wonder if those guys realise that by this time of the year in 2007 the PS3 was doig 1/3 of current XOne sales and was 7mi units behind the 360? 

And Sony was bleeding mony on the galons with each console sold?

Well.. that is why I love NeoGaf. You can talk your BS you want and no one will call you out. 

As of the week ending April 7th, 2007 the PS3 was 6.5 million behind the 360 and selling more on a weekly basis (though it was still coming off the Europe launch.  It also wasn't doing a third of current XOne sales.  In fact, that April 7th week was quite a bit higher than the XOne's most recent week.  Maybe you meant US sales, but the 360 didn't have a 7 million lead in the US at this time in 2007.

Though either way, I'm not sure how that matters for the posts you quoted.  The PS3's lead over the 360 in places like Japan and mainland Europe allowed it to keep up with the 360 despite the deficit in the US/UK.  For example even with the 360 doing well in the UK, the PS3 led in European sales for all but five weeks in 2007 after it launched.  The situation for Microsoft isn't the same.



chapset said:
Dark_Feanor said:

The funny thing about Neogaf is that the trend right now is:

 

"MS isnt pulling no PS3. The only reason why PS3 was able to bounce back is because of Sony's first party support and the devs talented enough to exploit Cell in said 1st party. MS got to comfortable coasting on 3rd parties last gen and now its biting them."

 

"Eh...The PS3 was carried by rest of the world.

Right now, the XB division is in a worst shape than the PS3 situation since the MS brand isn't that strong outside of NA/UK.

PS3 came back from a fricken 1 year sales gap + stupid high price because of the WW numbers and strong brand support. But X1? It is almost dead on arrival for most countries, hence why MS probably didn't want to ship extra units to other 2nd/3rd tier countries and wasting marketing/shipping resources for doing so."

And so on...

I wonder if those guys realise that by this time of the year in 2007 the PS3 was doig 1/3 of current XOne sales and was 7mi units behind the 360? 

And Sony was bleeding mony on the galons with each console sold?

Well.. that is why I love NeoGaf. You can talk your BS you want and no one will call you out. 

no it wasn't the ps3 was at 2,858,197 at the end of march 2007 and the x1 at 4.1mill at the end of march 2014, and let's forget the x360 was a full year on the market longer than the ps3 ;)

Yea, funny how he omitted that little tidbit. 



the_dengle said:
GProgrammer said:
tbone51 said:

Yes both nintendo systems spot on kinda funny, PS4 massively undertrack and X1 overtracked.  Vita under 11k (Overtracked by over double actually almost triple!) @EB1994 "Pls Understand"

I was reading the last few pages, I've gotta laugh about this user tbone. Here he goes again talking about the vita. In a post about the wii U. Is that what, four times or five times 

He stands out because everyone else is continuing to pretend the Vita doesn't exist. He wouldn't be singling out the Vita at all if people weren't quoting him asking why he feels the need to include the Vita in his recap of all of the NPD results.

People don't bother pointing out the obvious.

We know the Vita is dead in the US, we don't need Tbone over here to constantly remind us.



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mutantclown said:
The numbers on this site are shit, and I particularly hate it when people quote them.

Oh, look, it's exactly the person I wanted to see in this thread. This month's X1 numbers is probably a retroactive correction for them having X1 too high last month.



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EB1994 said:


He stands out because everyone else is continuing to pretend the Vita doesn't exist. He wouldn't be singling out the Vita at all if people weren't quoting him asking why he feels the need to include the Vita in his recap of all of the NPD results.

People don't bother pointing out the obvious.

We know the Vita is dead in the US, we don't need Tbone over here to constantly remind us.


Oh im srry, in 1 thread i said it 3-4 times too many? Wow (do you see me making 100 threads about it?)

Difference this time its actually very worrysome, it sold almost under 10k in a 5 week month. But i guess i dont need to blurt that out :-/



Dark_Feanor said:

You mean those timely and scatered on some places promotions?

Friend, as long Microsoft keeps the official price at $500 those deals won´t have much effect (outside the hollydays).

But as I said, sales will drop this summer, don´t matter what Microsoft bundle the console... the Hollydays, thought, could be a different story.

Are you all right? This particular NPD is hitting you Xbox Guys hard. Seriously, take a note from the PS3 guys at the beginning of last gen and the Wii U guys talking about Wii U outselling PS4, take a break, lurk, or go on Vacation. Play Titan Fall or KI or something. Play yo games son, cause the Sales are not on your side right now.

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thismeintiel said:
Yakuzaice said:

I know total shipments are ahead.  It had a really good launch.  But, looking at just 2014 sales by themselves, they are shipping the same, or a worse, amount as the dying 360 has been the past few years.  It just illustrates how much sales have dropped in other parts of the world, while in the US it still remains ahead of the 360.


Don´t ask me, ask VGChartz...

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41007/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41371/Global/

PS4 and XOne are just doing similar numbers than it predecessors did in the last few years. PS4 might have had a better overall quarter because of Japanease launch.



Yakuzaice said:
Dark_Feanor said:

The funny thing about Neogaf is that the trend right now is:

 

"MS isnt pulling no PS3. The only reason why PS3 was able to bounce back is because of Sony's first party support and the devs talented enough to exploit Cell in said 1st party. MS got to comfortable coasting on 3rd parties last gen and now its biting them."

 

"Eh...The PS3 was carried by rest of the world.

Right now, the XB division is in a worst shape than the PS3 situation since the MS brand isn't that strong outside of NA/UK.

PS3 came back from a fricken 1 year sales gap + stupid high price because of the WW numbers and strong brand support. But X1? It is almost dead on arrival for most countries, hence why MS probably didn't want to ship extra units to other 2nd/3rd tier countries and wasting marketing/shipping resources for doing so."

And so on...

I wonder if those guys realise that by this time of the year in 2007 the PS3 was doig 1/3 of current XOne sales and was 7mi units behind the 360? 

And Sony was bleeding mony on the galons with each console sold?

Well.. that is why I love NeoGaf. You can talk your BS you want and no one will call you out. 

As of the week ending April 7th, 2007 the PS3 was 6.5 million behind the 360 and selling more on a weekly basis (though it was still coming off the Europe launch.  It also wasn't doing a third of current XOne sales.  In fact, that April 7th week was quite a bit higher than the XOne's most recent week.  Maybe you meant US sales, but the 360 didn't have a 7 million lead in the US at this time in 2007.

Though either way, I'm not sure how that matters for the posts you quoted.  The PS3's lead over the 360 in places like Japan and mainland Europe allowed it to keep up with the 360 despite the deficit in the US/UK.  For example even with the 360 doing well in the UK, the PS3 led in European sales for all but five weeks in 2007 after it launched.  The situation for Microsoft isn't the same.


I meant, in the USA, PS3 in 2007 was doing 1/3 (or less) of Xone in 2014 is doing. 

We people have a confusing trend of mixing WW numbers whe we are all talking about NPDs.