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Forums - Sales - NPD March 2014 Thread - PS4 #1 (371k), Xbox One 311k, 360 111k, WiiU ~70k, Vita close to 4 digits. Titanfall tops software

 

Did the NPD results surprise you?

Yes 379 53.23%
 
No 308 43.26%
 
Total:687
M.U.G.E.N said:
This is embarrassing for MS. At least the PR was entertaining as usual


Ouch thats a bit overly harsh mugen..

Its not like X1 sales are bad



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DerNebel said:
celador said:
Feb NPD - 258k/4 weeks = 64.5k per week

March NPD - 311k/5 weeks = 62.2k per week

It sold less per week than last month. How??

That's what I've been wondering , last NPD someone, I think it was Rolstoppable, had the theory that the X1 numbers in February were only as high as they were because the NPD adjusted some months prior to that up and since they can't change old numbers they posted before, they just added the sales to February.

No idea how realistic that theory is, though.

Sounds reasonable.  I can't think of any other reason, Titanfall must have increased weekly sales



DélioPT said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
 

 

As a fan of the OG Xbox, I can tell you dats bullshit. Console Wars ended when Sega died and then restarted with the 360 vs PS3.

Once there`s two or more competitors, there`s always a brand war. It`s only natural.
the difference that generation is that neither GC nor XB stood a chance to even have a "war". The war was already before they came to the market.

I`m sure that many MS and Nintendo fans went through a tough time back then.

That's just speculation based on last gen and this gen. The PS2 released after the GC and Xbox yes, so it was definetly not designed to compete against their hardware. Thus the GC and Xbox were a lot more powerful. However, The Console War that we have now that started last gen is not the same one that we had prior in with the PS1, Saturn, and 64 in the 5th Gen, that "war" was incited by the companies to increase market awareness.

The 7th gen War was started by fans and thanks to the internet and social media fanbases can communciate with each other and against other groups. 

In 5th gen most people here had dial up, you didn't have internet communities for the PS2, it barely had online gaming. Only having one console for some kind of brand identity was even more insane then it is now because, social networking didn't really exist so you could barely even voice your opinions. It only made sense if it was an issue of price, or convience (many people were introduced into gaming because of the Xbox)

MS fans were such because they liked Xbox, but it had nothing to do with whether or not they where fans of PS2 or Nintendo.



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DélioPT said:
xenogears1234 said:
DélioPT said:
I don`t know why so many people are calling XB1 doomed.
It`s a 500$ console with less hype than PS4 but it still sold 311K. It`s selling above the 360.
Just because PS4 is outselling it doesn`t mean XB1 isn`t doing really well, because it is. Wish Wii U could pull half those numbers.


You have to understand the reason people think the xbone is doomed is cause america is what traditonally was the equalizer vs sony's total global sales although that too was only true in the beganning of the last console war, and if sony wins or even competes to a draw this gen in the us that means over time a ww slaughter cause of sony's massive lead in europe/japan.


I think that right from the start it was obvious that PS4 was going to put one heck of a fight in the US. And given the hype before it was only natural for it to start above the XB1.
People are also very quick to forget what history has taught us. In 2007/8 people already claimed PS3 to be dead last and Wii to overcome everyone with ease. Look how things turned out.

We are 6 months into this cycle and people are already calling XB1 doomed. Even in the States, it`s too early to see how things will pan out.
With XB1 doing so well at 500$, it`s got a great future ahead of it.
And let`s not forget, MS is in a better condition to decrease the price gap and keep it competitive.


that's right xbox isn't doomed at all as we are continually informed microsoft will use their billions to suck up the losses of gen 8 no matter what and sony are going under with their unmanageable debt,it is just a matter of time and really between the Wiiu & One



  

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celador said:
DerNebel said:

That's what I've been wondering , last NPD someone, I think it was Rolstoppable, had the theory that the X1 numbers in February were only as high as they were because the NPD adjusted some months prior to that up and since they can't change old numbers they posted before, they just added the sales to February.

No idea how realistic that theory is, though.

Sounds reasonable.  I can't think of any other reason, Titanfall must have increased weekly sales


well BenV said TitanFall hype died down after launch. sales could have increased when TF launch, but didnt increase as much as VGC showed it did, and the fell  a tad more sharply after than VGC showed it did. 



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celador said:
DerNebel said:

That's what I've been wondering , last NPD someone, I think it was Rolstoppable, had the theory that the X1 numbers in February were only as high as they were because the NPD adjusted some months prior to that up and since they can't change old numbers they posted before, they just added the sales to February.

No idea how realistic that theory is, though.

Sounds reasonable.  I can't think of any other reason, Titanfall must have increased weekly sales

Possibly, I really don't know what's going on with those sales, Titanfall should've definitely raised weekly sales.



DélioPT said:
xenogears1234 said:
DélioPT said:
 


I think that right from the start it was obvious that PS4 was going to put one heck of a fight in the US. And given the hype before it was only natural for it to start above the XB1.
People are also very quick to forget what history has taught us. In 2007/8 people already claimed PS3 to be dead last and Wii to overcome everyone with ease. Look how things turned out.

We are 6 months into this cycle and people are already calling XB1 doomed. Even in the States, it`s too early to see how things will pan out.
With XB1 doing so well at 500$, it`s got a great future ahead of it.
And let`s not forget, MS is in a better condition to decrease the price gap and keep it competitive.


Microsoft is not sony they dont have the track record  with studios/indy support in terms of titles.  Nor do they have the fanbase built up to take this kind of a hit like sony did last gen and recover from it.  Also sony could justify the price of the ps3 cause of blu ray, microsoft can not do the same cause of kinect, and trust me if sony launched the ps3 and was losing head to head to the 360 in europe and japan the way xbox is losing america sony fans would have been rightfully just as panicked.

The first MS fans had to endure the success of PS2, so it`s nothing new to them.
I´m not sure if MS can or cannot justify the price tag. From a manufacturing point of view, the price might be just about right. From a commercial point of view the only reason i`d say no, is because the basic premise of Kinect was already sold on XB360. From the angle, the new Kinect isn`t enough reason ot buy a 500$ console.
It`s a tough call. Personally, i never believed the new Kinect would make the same impact.

The thing is XB360 wasn`t doing that well in Europe as XB1 is doing, now, in the US. They are on par, but up there in sales numbers, not down there.
That`s why i don`t understand the doom comments. I understand that MS might be worried that it will be a tougher fight they originally thought, but there`s no reason to panic. Selling 311K is more than healthy for the Xbox business in the US.

In my opinion the new Kinect could have done wonders. But there's no software for it.

This is the biggest issue i have with MS's X1 launch. They are investing a lot in Kinect yet they didnt have any software for it? And apart from one or two games now they still dont have the software to sell the device.



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Well, if you look at the Titanfall sales numbers, and compare them to this NPD's X1 sales, one can conclude that the great majority of people who wanted Titanfall bought the console at launch or during previous months. And when March rolled in, all MS could do was use their giveaways and pricecuts to reel in stragglers and on-the-fencers. There were some, but not enough to cause a significant spike in numbers.

Unless some tectonic changes occur (killing Kinect and seriously undercutting PS4 price), MS might see a severe drop in their user base, probably even hurting Halo's status as a system seller, pulling off another Titanfall - selling mostly to established users and moving relatively few new consoles.



Not quite on the X1 doom train yet.

MS has lots of cards to play. However they cant afford to let Sony increase their momentum. Before you know it, the PS4 is the next 360. At which point the X1 becomes a failure.

I would remove the kinect, cut the price and give it a new marketing push with key new software like quantum break etc. The X1 has a solid games library they need to sell it.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
DélioPT said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
 

 

As a fan of the OG Xbox, I can tell you dats bullshit. Console Wars ended when Sega died and then restarted with the 360 vs PS3.

Once there`s two or more competitors, there`s always a brand war. It`s only natural.
the difference that generation is that neither GC nor XB stood a chance to even have a "war". The war was already before they came to the market.

I`m sure that many MS and Nintendo fans went through a tough time back then.

That's just speculation based on last gen and this gen. The PS2 released after the GC and Xbox yes, so it was definetly not designed to compete against their hardware. Thus the GC and Xbox were a lot more powerful. However, The Console War that we have now that started last gen is not the same one that we had prior in with the PS1, Saturn, and 64 in the 5th Gen, that "war" was incited by the companies to increase market awareness.

The 7th gen War was started by fans and thanks to the internet and social media fanbases can communciate with each other and against other groups. 

In 5th gen most people here had dial up, you didn't have internet communities for the PS2, it barely had online gaming. Only having one console for some kind of brand identity was even more insane then it is now because, social networking didn't really exist so you could barely even voice your opinions. It only made sense if it was an issue of price, or convience (many people were introduced into gaming because of the Xbox)

MS fans were such because they liked Xbox, but it had nothing to do with whether or not they where fans of PS2 or Nintendo.

Nope PS2 Was first

PS2 Mar 2000 JP, OCT 2000 NA+EU

GC sep 2001 JP, Nov NA, May 2002 EU

Xbox Nov 2001 NA, Feb 2002 JP, March 2002 EU