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Anfebious said:
It's good that they saw their error, but the error is done. I hope the Wii U never gets another EA title.

Nintendo fans only buy first party so they'd lose money porting the game anyways.



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Condescending commentary from a professional outlet - any day of the year - is unprofessional behavior.



Aielyn said:

BMaker11 said:
Really?? How is it any different that telling people to play SF2 on max difficulty, getting a perfect in every round, and beating Bison in less than 2 minutes in order to unlock Sheng Long? People wanted Sheng Long, just like people now may want Frostbite games on WiiU, but neither are actually possible.

Three things, here: the claim that you can unlock Sheng Long didn't come from Capcom, it wasn't possible at the time to release add-ons to the game, and the Frostbite Engine is entirely possible on Wii U, given that the Wii U is stronger than the PS3 and 360, which the engine does run on.

BMaker11 said:
Nobody forced a WiiU on you, then laughed at you when certain games don't come to it and said "maybe you shouldn't have gotten a WiiU".

Are you seriously saying this? The analogy is that you're blaming the people who bought Wii U's, rather than the company that made the tasteless joke. You're saying that, if people are offended, that's their problem, when all they did was buy a Wii U under the understanding that the company was going to be fully supporting the system (remember the "unprecedented partnership"? The thing where, until about 3 months after launch, they kept saying that they loved the Wii U and were going to support it fully?).

BMaker11 said:
And don't say my analogy with the SF prank isnt applicable since it wasn't a developer that made the joke. EGM was still a business that's held to a standard and had costumers, same as EA.

I'm sorry, but you have to be joking, right? You don't think there's a difference between EGM making an April Fools joke about an already-released game made by another company, in which you have to do something that is practically impossible in order to unlock the character, the effort going into which would involve the person playing the heck out of the game and probably enjoying it along the way, and a company that makes games saying "hey, we're releasing our games on this system. PSYCH!"

Surely you must see the difference between these two situations. And surely you must see the difference between the claim that a character is unlockable in a game and the claim that you're going to be supporting a gaming system that you said for about two years you'd support, before suddenly changing your mind after people had already bought it. Note that EA had supposedly had Frostbite attempt it a bit, some time in late 2011 or early 2012... but didn't bother telling anybody that they'd given up until mid-2013.

On the one hand, you have EGM mocking Capcom. On the other, you have Frostbite mocking gamers. Funny how some people try to make out as though these two situations are the same, or that Frostbite mocking gamers is actually a good thing.

Just admit it - you aren't saying "you're oversensitive" because of the situation, but because you think mocking Nintendo fans is fair game. In other words, you have more contempt for your fellow gamer than for companies that mock them.

All I'll say is that A. "offense" is subjective, so yea.....it is your own problem for getting your panties in a bunch. I don't remember a game engine pledging allegiance to a console. Remember, this was @FrostbiteEngine's tweet, not EA.

And B. I don't have contempt for my fellow gamer, but it is all fair game. Mocking anyone Sony, MS, or Nintendo is fair game. I didn't say it was necessarily a "good thing"...but it was April Fools Day. Get over it. Don't act like Nintendo fans didn't mock PS and Xbox fans for "port begging" Bayonetta 2. Did you guys "have contempt for your fellow gamer"  then because PS/Xbox wasn't getting B2? No? Then why are you pulling the persecution card saying I have "contempt" for you when it comes to something Nintendo isn't getting?



BMaker11 said:
All I'll say is that A. "offense" is subjective, so yea.....it is your own problem for getting your panties in a bunch. I don't remember a game engine pledging allegiance to a console. Remember, this was @FrostbiteEngine's tweet, not EA.

And B. I don't have contempt for my fellow gamer, but it is all fair game. Mocking anyone Sony, MS, or Nintendo is fair game. I didn't say it was necessarily a "good thing"...but it was April Fools Day. Get over it. Don't act like Nintendo fans didn't mock PS and Xbox fans for "port begging" Bayonetta 2. Did you guys "have contempt for your fellow gamer"  then because PS/Xbox wasn't getting B2? No? Then why are you pulling the persecution card saying I have "contempt" for you when it comes to something Nintendo isn't getting?

A. No, taking offense is a personal thing, but it is entirely possible to determine when a person or group is being offensive. I wasn't actually offended by Frostbite. But they were disrespecting me, and many other people, with their so-called joke. And Frostbite is owned by EA, so EA is responsible for what is said. But thanks for the "panties in a bunch" phrase that shows ignorance, arrogance, and a massively sexist attitude.

B. I didn't once mock PS or Xbox fans for "port begging" Bayonetta 2. What I did do, though, is emphasise that Nintendo are paying for the game, so port begging wasn't going to do much good. You see, there's a difference between being honest and mocking. If Frostbite had said "Sorry to Wii U owners, but we're not going to be porting Frostbite to the system", people would probably ask for explanations, but they wouldn't be offended by it.

As an example of something that WAS comparable, and somewhat appropriately related to Bayonetta 2, consider the tweets by Kamiya mocking the people who kept asking for certain games on their system of choice - THAT was also unacceptable. The difference there, though, was that Kamiya was an individual, speaking as an individual, whereas Frostbite was speaking from their official PR account.

Furthermore, they didn't just mock Wii U owners, they also mocked anybody who bought Battlefield 4 with their April Fools about their netcode - they couldn't even get it remotely decent, and their April Fools involved them going "we've fixed it!"

And again, this isn't about persecution, it's about disrespect of gamers. And companies like EA have been disrespecting gamers far too long. This was just the tipping point.

 

EDIT: Let me put this another way - this "joke" was bad enough that EA felt it had to apologise for it and call it stupid, despite not (supposedly) having any games in development for either Nintendo system, despite the obvious response of "sorry, it was just a poorly worded April Fools joke", and despite the fact that they didn't feel the need to apologise when they screwed people over on things like SimCity and Battlefield 4. Those weren't bad enough, but this was. What does that tell you? Perhaps that this had actually crossed the line? Or do you think that EA, the company that told gamers that SimCity had to be online because most of the computing was done in the cloud, despite ample evidence to the contrary, that loves to prevaricate on just about everything, is too quick to apologise and admit to their mistake because of... people who have "their panties in a bunch"?



I (being a loyal Nintendo fan), am not at all offended by the joke itself. What I am bothered though is the way they executed it. We all know the Wii U is unable to run the engine (we get that already, so stop beating around the bush).

But to rub it all over our faces is (like Aielyn said) very disrespectful. The joke essentially was a dick move (somewhat). Of course the Wii U can't run it, but at the same time don't dangle it (the possibility that it might) right in front of us like a rabbit with a carrot.

It's like as if a bunch of 16-17 year olds were playing basket ball and they see a 7-8 year old across the court alone. Knowing that hes is too small to play with the big kids they still offer him to play only to to reveal that they were only joking and they leave him in the dust.

Again the I'm not saying the joke offended me personally, but it was disrespectful and quite honestly a very lame joke all together. The equivalent would be is if Nintendo came up and said that they patched things up with EA and announced that they were bringing Origin to the Wii U. Only to say later that it was all a joke.



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freebs2 said:
Offensive or not, stupid joke is stupid. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Most WiiU owners right now are passionate multiplatform gamers, and if it weren't for passionate players VG tools like Frostbite and the likes would utterly useless.

I actually can't tell if you're joking :P

Can someone link me the thread with the tweets? I missed the whole thing.



Ugh......we live in a "1st world" obsessed with being politically correct. How boring.



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apologising is worst from my point of view, is like they are paying respect to the "dead" (implying the Wii U is dead). They should have attacked sony and microsoft, that would have been a better move.



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Sal.Paradise said:
freebs2 said:
Offensive or not, stupid joke is stupid. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Most WiiU owners right now are passionate multiplatform gamers, and if it weren't for passionate players VG tools like Frostbite and the likes would utterly useless.

I actually can't tell if you're joking :P

Can someone link me the thread with the tweets? I missed the whole thing.

No, not really :P



greencactaur said:
The joke was stupid anyways....

It was also "very" offensive! I started crying so badly when I initially read the tweet!



                
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