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When is Nintendo going to surrender?

2015 probably, with the r... 28 8.31%
 
2018 once their next console flops! 37 10.98%
 
Never 255 75.67%
 
Tomorrow...maybe. 17 5.04%
 
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Mr Khan said:
Anfebious said:

It would seem it's the only way, but relying on "Wii hits" is not a solid strategy at all. Maybe a good solution would be to start (slowly) buying studios, or reinforcing the ones they have to keep a steady production of games.

That is definitely a necessary step too. Nintendo needs to be *ready* to support their onw consoles all by themselves. In the future, this will be easier, as they are aiming to have cross-compatibility amongst their platforms. Once they have achieved that, then the "splitting" of their limited resources will no longer harm them, as all games will work on both sides more or less (except for games really tooled to the console or handheld experience, i guess.)

Now is the time to buy up troubled-but-talented mid-tier studios before that breed dies out entirely, or invest in promising indies. Realistically, the *necessary* output capacity is only 12 significant games a year, with only half of those (at most) being really big blockbusters (there seems to be something of a conceit among Microsoft and Sony fans that their consoles just receive hit after hit due to third party support, when most of these games aren't that big in the grand scheme of things).

Essentially, Nintendo is already making the right number of blockbusters for the Wii U: the big, console-pushing (at least they are intended to) titles. What Nintendo needs more of are the "sustaining" titles that fill up the gaps, so to speak, and these could be made both more budget-friendly and filled by many different kinds of studios on a tighter production schedule, without having to worry about what third parties do or (more likely) fail to do.

Well I really have nothing else to add but I completely agree with you.



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As much as I have fond memories of Nintendo through the Nintendo 64 and Gameboy as a kid and as much as I love a few of their franchises, they have done this to themselves. It's hard to have sympathy for them when they have screwed up so badly over the past several years.



pokoko said:
Anfebious said:

You don't solve your third party problems by throwing money to them, not if you are Nintendo at least. Sony and Microsoft can throw them money all they want, but Nintendo operates differently and that's what bothers third parties.

That's fine, Nintendo can do business how they wish, but so can everyone else.  It's not even as much about throwing money as it is about establishing a partnership.  Business isn't about favors, it's about doing what is best for your company, period.  Sony and Microsoft have always worked harder to make their partnerships as mutually beneficial as possible.  That is what third-parties like and I do not blame them one bit.

Quite honestly, most companies that do business the way Nintendo does business fail.  They owe their very existance to the quality of their software.  Their game development studios save their ass.

Well it worked for 30 years so I am pretty sure that it's a solid bussiness strategy. Owning your very existence to the quality of your software and surviving for 30 years is not failing at all. Depending on others to further improve your bussiness is a shakier bussiness model.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

Anfebious said:
pokoko said:

That's fine, Nintendo can do business how they wish, but so can everyone else.  It's not even as much about throwing money as it is about establishing a partnership.  Business isn't about favors, it's about doing what is best for your company, period.  Sony and Microsoft have always worked harder to make their partnerships as mutually beneficial as possible.  That is what third-parties like and I do not blame them one bit.

Quite honestly, most companies that do business the way Nintendo does business fail.  They owe their very existance to the quality of their software.  Their game development studios save their ass.

Well it worked for 30 years so I am pretty sure that it's a solid bussiness strategy. Owning your very existence to the quality of your software and surviving for 30 years is not failing at all. Depending on others to further improve your bussiness is a shakier bussiness model.

Maybe you're right.  Maybe Nintendo's problems are all the fault of others.  Maybe Sony and Microsoft are doing it wrong by paying attention to third parties.  I guess we'll see.



I hope they never give up, and the WiiU sell ok and they can make another console in 4 years or so.



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If the only really successful console maker gives up then there is no future for the other two... Valve wins I guess...



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Sheesh, Kirby Triple Deluxe and Mario Kart 8 really need to release already so we can drown out all these negative threads with positive ones, if only for a short while!



im suspicious WiiU will have a better year than most think...lol
seriously WiiU is going to kill it this years holiday season. MK8+Smash+Bayo2+X+Yoshi+Sonic+Zelda musou .......
that is an amzing lineup



I still don't believe in it. Maybe on IGN and VGChartz and every other big sites there are trolls constantly trolling against Nintendo, but really, there's nothing to worry about. Except Nintendo they have to worry if they can't ramp up production of games.



Yep.